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Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - Guest - 02-11-2009
Now, we know LeeE would but what about you?
Now let's keep this local
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD7mLp9j-3k
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - LeeE - 02-11-2009
esnap,
You're comment speaks for itself.
The idea of importing health care professionals from countries that make them available is Puna related.
Your posts and this thread are not.
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - Guest - 02-11-2009
LeeE,
Are there not people in Puna that can become doctors and nurses?
I would be willing to bet that almost every Doctor and Nurse in Cuba would move to Puna in a New York minute if given the chance.
The question is, would you be willing to put up with free health care here in Puna if it was like Cuba's.
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - LeeE - 02-11-2009
Esnap,
Yes, absolutely we should be training health care professionals here. This has been broadly discussed and I'd love to see us, "make it so".
Train local and hire local.
Quality health care only, please.
Off topic...one thing I've loved about Punaweb is it's congenial tone, no matter how eccentric the subject matter may seem. We've been losing that lately, to Punaweb's detriment.
We have a primo community website here. Let's treat it with respect.
Other than that, screw the bastards!
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - Greg - 02-11-2009
My impression of third world health care is that they make the best use of the limited resources available. Just as we "civilized" people can learn things from a stoneage Hawaiian culture, we can adopt some of the simple, preventative, healthcare techniques practiced by less fortunate societies out of neccessity.
This doesn't have to be about politics.
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - LeeE - 02-11-2009
Amen.
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - Sean - 02-11-2009
Darn I just lost my story about a trip to a Mexican ER. Suffice it to say it was a great story that had to do with surfing in Baja and it even had a happy ending -I healed and it cost $35 including drugs. In comparison I had another personal story about a trip to an ER in Arcata, CA. It cost $250 for steristrips that didn't hold when I should have gotten stitches. Oh, then I got another bill for more money. It seems that I got billed by the nurse/attendent and separately by the hospital...
I do have a comment regarding the phrasing of the question above. "The question is, would you be willing to put up with free health care here in Puna if it was like Cuba's."
That comment/question is slanted and is slightly annoying. It's almost like saying, "Person X is evil, you don't want to support evil do you?" Of course nobody wants poor healthcare, nor do they want to put up with it.
Trust me when I say that we have our own issues right here in this Country of ours.
Here's a CNN clip for a lady in NY I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QudX2ARq13k&feature=related
Sure, she might have a mental issue, but does she deserve to die on the floor without even getting a bed? (Hey these sorts of questions are fun.)
Here's another headline:
Woman dies in ER lobby as 911 refuses to help
Tapes show operators ignored pleas to send ambulance to L.A. hospital
link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19207050/
So I guess that I would say that nobody want's poor health care, but to point at Cuba and say free health care doesn't work kinda' ignores the failures in our own healthcare system. Undoubtedly, there are shining examples of free healthcare systems just as there are several shining examples of emergency room visits that were covered by my employer sponsored healthcare. I'm happy either way, I have a job that has great coverage. It must really suck for the people who's employer doesn't provide healthcare.
Cheers,
Sean
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - jerry - 02-11-2009
Assume that the population of Puna is 40,000. If Puna had the same number of doctors per person as Cuba we would have about 235 doctors--1 doctor for every 170 people. I would certainly put up with that!
Jerry
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - Jon - 02-11-2009
Sean...
If you had died in Mexico... it would cost the ER there nothing... If you had died in CA. your family would have sued for millions...
If you don't understand the difference, I am sorry.
You guys might want to find out what the true cost of medical care in the USA is, before you bitch about it.
In Cuba, if some DR. kills someone, there is no recourse for the family, if he puts your eye out, you can't even bitch. But in the USA, if a DR. messes up... someone is going to be rich.
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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
HBAT
RE: Would the good people of Puna put up w/ this - Greg - 02-12-2009
Quote:
"You guys might want to find out what the true cost of medical care in the USA is, before you bitch about it."
"But in the USA, if a DR. messes up... someone is going to be rich."
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So you're suggesting that the reason our healhcare system is unavailable for millions is litigation and attourney fees ?
I see your point.
What's the RX for that ?
BTW, What do they call the person who graduates LAST in their class at medical school?................................................
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