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fights in the high school - Bullwinkle - 11-03-2009
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/articles/2009/11/02/local_news/local02.txt
what a mess ... maybe they should have been flying over the high school yesterday - I hear Kulani is vacant
RE: fights in the high school - Devany - 11-03-2009
Good point Bullwinkle. When I saw the article I thought much the same. So sad that kids cannot be in a safe place. Nobody to blame but their families... they were taught this somehow.
Aloha au i Hawai`i,
devany
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RE: fights in the high school - Royall - 11-03-2009
This makes it sound like school is just "Prep school" for prison. Shame the parents don't take it serious but, their parents didn't take it serious either. So sad.
Royall
RE: fights in the high school - Chuysmom - 11-03-2009
I'm thinkin' zero tolerance would be a good path. (Just my opinion...no slamming please.)
Carrie Rojo
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"The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it." Galadriel - LOTR
RE: fights in the high school - Samdooby - 11-03-2009
What the heck are you talking about Carrie!! Are u freakin CRAZY!! J/K..LOL
It is sad to see stuff like this. These youngsters need more education, activities, etc...
Pray for the youth...
RE: fights in the high school - missydog1 - 11-03-2009
Don't know what all this media fuss is about. I'm sure I've heard on Punaweb that Kea'au school is full of aloha and if you move here from the mainland, no worries about putting your kid in this school. [
]Seriously, I'm glad the troubles are getting attention. I'm sorry they had to escalate to this point for that to happen.
RE: fights in the high school - Chuysmom - 11-03-2009
My Mom's caretaker said today that her son gets "called out" which she thinks has a lot to do with BJ Penn. The high school boys think it's cool and if they are called out and don't fight they are targeted.
Carrie Rojo
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http://www.carrierojo.etsy.com
"The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it." Galadriel - LOTR
RE: fights in the high school - Samdooby - 11-03-2009
Blaming BJ reminds me of parents in the burbs blaming Eminem or Marilyn Manson for their sons/daughters misdeeds...
BJ has nothing to due with these kids scrapping at KHS...[xx(]
If anything, BJ has opened doors for these kids to train and learn the proper techniques and safety in regards to MMA...
My advice: tell your friend to teach that boy to scrap back and knock some noodles around. At least then, he might gain some respect and let others know he is willing to bang domes. Otherwise, he is going to get daily lickins b/c he ranks out or doesnt want to scrap...
RE: fights in the high school - Chuysmom - 11-03-2009
Oh he WANTS to scrap! LOL...
I don't think that school is the place for this crap though. I wouldn't want to teach or work in a place that kids are pounding the crap out of each other at this level. And it's tough enough being a teenager without all that bravado crap goin' on.
Carrie Rojo
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http://www.carrierojo.etsy.com
"The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it." Galadriel - LOTR
RE: fights in the high school - csgray - 11-03-2009
One of the first things we learned when I took Education Psychology was Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, a widely accepted theory that states that in order for learning or other productive or creative activity to occur humans have a hierarchy of needs. The first are the basic needs of food, water and shelter, but the next level of needs is feeling safe. If a person is hungry or lacking other basic needs, or is AFRAID or THREATENED they cannot learn.
If kids want to scrap outside of school that is a matter for their families and/or the police to deal with, but if other kids are unable to learn because those kids create an environment where other children are afraid, then they are stealing other students' opportunity for educations and creating an unsafe environment for children who are required by law to be there. The solution is not telling every boy he needs to scrap back and become equally violent, but for the responsible adults to do their jobs and make sure that school is a safe place. The DOE discipline code is actually pretty strong if it is followed, but a student has to be suspended for a total of 9 days before he can be expelled, and in school suspensions don't count towards their 9 days. So administrators soft pedal the discipline and keep putting these kids back in the classroom where they continue to create an environment where it is almost impossible for other students to learn. This just prepares the troublemakers for a Hawaii justice system that gives criminals a little slap on the hands until they become murders and rapists, at which point they get a slightly harder slap on the hands. Same pattern, same people, just at a different level a few years later.
Carol