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Frog Fungus - Brad W - 01-13-2007
Any coqui fighters out there happen to catch this? (just kidding)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/japan_frog_fungus
Hmmm...
RE: Frog Fungus - Kelena - 01-13-2007
I caught it. Death to coquis. (not kidding).
RE: Frog Fungus - JerryCarr - 01-13-2007
There have actually been some well-intended serious proposals to introduce this or other amphibian pathogens to eliminate coquis. It might sound attractive, but then the law of unintended consequences kicks in. There is always a price to pay, as in bringing in the mongoose to control rats in cane fields. The list goes on and on. It may be too late to halt the coquis, but maybe this disaster will result in the prevention of more invasions in the future.
Cheers,
Jerry
RE: Frog Fungus - Brad W - 01-13-2007
Hi Jerry, I agree with you the introduction of any alien species and/or biological control measure is a matter not to be taken lightly. However, there are many examples of success in doing so. Good science is the key. Australia hit a home run by introducing a virus to kill a rabbit plague years ago, but then struck out by bringing over the cane toad (from Hawaii). The difference was science. In Oregon we introduced a non-native grass that thrives in sand to stop a giant sand dune from covering Interstate 84. We also introduced a non-native weed eating fish to clean up Devil's Lake, which was so choked up you could walk on it. Both were incredibly cost effective successes. I think the answer is out there, and I think someday someone will find it. I just hate to hear you say it's too late to stop them, because the affects of these little devils has not yet been fully felt, and if we have lost, for many, paradise is also lost.
RE: Frog Fungus - Kahunascott - 01-13-2007
I had to treat 3 Sago Palms for scale today.
When cutting back on the trees I killed 19 of them. What a battle. And out came the largest red Centipede and he got it also.
This thing was about 6" in length and a half inch across, the largest to date on my hit list.
RE: Frog Fungus - adias - 01-13-2007
I had dinner with a from guy from Puerto Rico and apparently coquis are well loved there. I guess in time even Kahunascott will learn to love them ;-)
"The Coqui is a very popular creature throughout the island because it harmonizes the evenings with its graceful melody. The people on the island love to listen to the Coqui sing at bedtime, and its melody is dearly missed by the Puerto Ricans that are away from home....
....Critical Habitat has been designated in Puerto Rico because Coquies are in danger of extinction.. "
http://www.vineland.org/history/pr_festival/coqui.htm
Edited by - adias on 01/14/2007 02:26:32
RE: Frog Fungus - Brad W - 01-13-2007
There are natural controls in Puerto Rico that simply do not exist here on the Big Island, brown tree snakes whos favorite food is the coqui frog being one. One needs to remember this is a non-native invasive species that will potentially do irreparable harm to the eco system of this island. Folks who get to sleep at night without the aid of earplugs are blessed. "Harmonizes the evening with it's graceful melody"? adias, try to keep it real.
RE: Frog Fungus - adias - 01-13-2007
Brad, quote from link Above... Same critter??, very different take from different societies, One persons melody is another persons nightmare more quotes below... [Note: I am not a frog fan, just an impartial observer]
Being a tree frog and given the size and reproduction capability of the Coqui the only reasonable eradication technique seems to be some sort of biological control.
Coquis are considered in danger of extinction in Pureto Rico, perhaps a clue to their control or indication of environmental problems.. Puna appears to be the ideal habitat... "Coqui has to have a subtropical moist forest, receiving 1100 to 2200 mm of rainfall every year with an average bio temperature between 18 and 24 degrees Celsius."
Quote..."Great is the love for the Coqui on the island. There are all types images of the tiny creature painted on almost every sort of souvenir offered by the tourist traders. One can find many varieties of key chains, T-shirts, banners and glasses with the Coqui on them. It is also featured in many commercial products manufactured by the island industries. It’s no wonder that Puerto Ricans consider the Coqui to be the symbol of Puerto Rico, which has become somewhat the “island mascot”. The Coqui is considered to be an important part of the islands natural and cultural heritage."
A Pro Coqui Site in Hawaii??? “I object to using tax dollars to kill coqui tree frogs in Hawaii. Killing frogs endangers the environment with poisons, defoliation and deforestation while the frogs are harmless. Leave the frogs alone and stop the Frog War!” http://www.hawaiiancoqui.org/frogmania.htm
A Place of Refuge for Coquis... or capitalism at work??? "OUR COQUI SANCTUARY and Nature Preserve is a tropical paradise near the Puna coast, on the east side of Hawaii" http://www.coqui-hawaii-ecotourism.hawaiiancoqui.org/
Even a book!!! "Panic in Paradise: Invasive Species Hysteria and the Hawaiian Coqui Frog War"
http://www.amazon.com/Panic-Paradise-Invasive-Hysteria-Environmentalism/dp/1930858078/sr=8-1/qid=1168789329/ref=sr_1_1/102-9489292-8211300?ie=UTF8&s=books
Edited by - adias on 01/14/2007 06:24:04
RE: Frog Fungus - Kahunascott - 01-14-2007
quote:
I had dinner with a from guy from Puerto Rico and apparently coquis are well loved there. I guess in time even Kahunascott will learn to love them ;-)
"The Coqui is a very popular creature throughout the island because it harmonizes the evenings with its graceful melody. The people on the island love to listen to the Coqui sing at bedtime, and its melody is dearly missed by the Puerto Ricans that are away from home....
....Critical Habitat has been designated in Puerto Rico because Coquies are in danger of extinction.. "
http://www.vineland.org/history/pr_festival/coqui.htm
Edited by - adias on 01/14/2007 02:26:32
I have to agree with Brad W. I've been to Puerto Rico a number of times. There they are a background melody kinda like crickets.
Not the over all night time bombardment some complain about. We don't have them bad here at our home in Hawaiian Beaches. But some lots I go by they sound like jet engines. When I find them I kill them.
RE: Frog Fungus - adias - 01-14-2007
Where is a good public place to experience a worst case scenario of the Coqui melodies; Lava Tree Park? Red Road at night? It’s quite possible that I am not sensitive to the high frequency range and the noise comes in one ear and goes out the other.
Edited by - adias on 01/14/2007 09:30:23