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Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - Beachboy - 01-23-2012
HAwaii's legislative season just started. It is now time to see if your local state politican supports medical cannabis, and the state opening up some dispensaries? I believe it's gonna really be an up hill battle this year to get job done. It's gonna take the support of all of you.
Let's face it, the state could really use the revenue this new industry could generate here. It's has made Cali & Colorado all kinds of cash, why not here?
Here is a documentary that one the Maui Film Festival sevral years back. It's called "CASH CROP" and it deals with the grow scene in Cali. Really quite good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QOUBIylKxM&feature=endscreen&NR=1
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RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - dmbwest - 01-23-2012
Aloha and happy new year Beachboy ! How you ? !
aloha,
pog
RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - Chuysmom - 01-23-2012
Boy, with Roger Christie in jail and that whole mess still ongoing, ya gotta wonder. You'd think the State would permit many things they don't, but we'll see what's in store...
Carrie
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RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - EightFingers - 01-24-2012
The state's not making their money from the right people.
RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - rbrgs - 01-24-2012
ATF say medical-marijuana patients are prohibited from owning guns
10/3/2011
By John Ingold
The Denver Post
Brian Vicente, one of the state's most prominent medical-marijuana proponents, calls it a "travesty."
Tony Fabian, one of the state's foremost gun-rights activists, says it's evidence of "hostility."
What has forged this quirky convergence of advocacy — tokers, meet shooters — is a September letter from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives saying it is illegal for medical-marijuana patients to own firearms.
Everybody who buys a gun must fill out ATF Form 4473, which asks: "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?"
Answer yes, and you don't get the gun. Falsely answer no, and you've just committed a crime.
The ATF's letter, sent out Sept. 21, clarifies that the bureau includes medical-marijuana patients in that group of prohibited buyers because their marijuana use is inherently illegal federally.
The letter also tells gun sellers that they could be in line for punishment if they knowingly sell to medical-marijuana patients.
"Any person," bureau Assistant Director Arthur Herbert writes in the open letter to all gun sellers, "who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is ... prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition."
That rubs Vicente and Fabian the wrong way but in different manners.
Cannabis advocates see the letter as a further attack on state medical-marijuana programs, following a memo earlier this year from the Justice Department clarifying that the department views dispensaries as legitimate prosecution targets.
"From a patients' rights perspective, I think this is a travesty," said Vicente, the head of Sensible Colorado. "People shouldn't be denied their constitutional rights based on their choice of medicine."
Fabian, the president of the Colorado State Shooting Association, said he agrees with a state law making it illegal to possess a firearm while intoxicated — on any substance. But he said he is suspicious of the recent letter.
The Obama administration has said it does not consider it worth federal agents' time to enforce federal marijuana laws on individual medical- marijuana patients.
Why, then, Fabian asks, has it decided to crack down specifically on gun ownership by state- law-abiding medical-marijuana patients?
"There is a hostility by both the ATF and the Obama administration toward the owners of guns," Fabian said.
Other gun-rights advocates haven't stepped forward to criticize something that medical-marijuana activists also oppose.
The National Rifle Association, which frequently butts heads with the ATF, has not put out a statement on the letter, and a spokesperson there did not return calls for comment. A spokesman for Rocky Mountain Gun Owners was also silent.
There don't appear to be any cases in Colorado where people have been prosecuted for illegally owning guns because they are medical- marijuana patients.
Jeff Dorschner, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Colorado, said the decision whether to prosecute someone would be made on a case-by-case basis.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_19026921
RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - loffelkopffl - 01-25-2012
what if you used your gun as a pipe?
RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - bystander - 01-25-2012
The gun rights advocates are mostly right wing conservatives that have a prejudice against MJ and people who use it. We've seen this view expressed many times on this forum. It's not hard to see why they wouldn't step forward and oppose this.
RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - Beachboy - 01-25-2012
the two Senators Medical Cannabis has in it's corner , Kalani English of Maui & Will Espero of Ewa Beach. I sent an email to ESpero just last week. He had told me that it would be a real uphill battle this year. Then what was last year,..a cakewalk?
I asked him why to "Pilot programs" for dispensaries, and he replied pilot programs were added as a last ditch effort to get bill moved forward. He said this years pilot program offered up will be designed for Big Island.
My biggest fear is that the Religious Right will mount a very compelling attack on the medical cannabis industry. Which by all counts has already begun!
If you read this and support medical cannabis, call your elected official and ask were he or she stands on this very important issue.
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RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - Beachboy - 01-25-2012
quote:
Originally posted by pog
Aloha and happy new year Beachboy ! How you ? !
aloha,
pog
I'm doing okay, howabout you Pog? Long time,no converse huh. What are you doing these days?
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RE: Attention all medical cannabis growers.. - oink - 01-25-2012
quote:Not even close to a universal truth. I'm a 2nd amendment supporter for sure and I hold many views many here might consider very conservative. However, I think MJ should be legalized, with restrictions. I'm not talking just medical MJ, but for most citizens of legal age. What I do have a major problem with is the dishonesty of so many of the arguments for legalization. That BS really turns me off. I also have an issue with stoners or anyone else that stays stoned on whatever substance, be it alcohol or whatever.
Originally posted by bystander: The gun rights advocates are mostly right wing conservatives that have a prejudice against MJ and people who use it. We've seen this view expressed many times on this forum. It's not hard to see why they wouldn't step forward and oppose this.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.