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And, after all of that, they have to be shipped over the ocean to our island?
Same reason we mail our property taxes to Washington?
"I want to talk about the problem, not fix it"
Sometimes "having the problem" is far more important than "solving the problem".
Example: a "solved" problem doesn't need research grants....
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PauHana asked for a wish list. This was simply my Christmas list. However, I agree that I would probably get better results asking Santa for them than the state and county governments.
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probably get better results asking Santa for them than the state and county
Of course. That's because Santa Claus actually exists, unlike the County.
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" Why can I not have a full kitchen in my ohana unit if I am on Ag zoned property?"
I believe you can have a "Craft Room" with those amenities, at least that's what I was told.
My intent of this thread was to elicit common sense ideas about how the code could be made Hawaii friendly.
Believe me I understand the cynicism, and mistrust of government, but it is self-defeating to enter the discussion expecting to loose.
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.
Don't find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain”
Henry Ford
If you present a reasonable case and rational rebuttals to objections you are much more likely to effect change or a compromise. Attacking someone or calling them corrupt for not agreeing with you just builds a stone wall.
Make believe you are twenty one again and you can change the world. Or at least the building code.
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present a reasonable case and rational rebuttals to objections ...
People did that while the building code was being revised; they were ignored.
Later, these same issues were raised as a "sustainability research process", which also failed.
common sense ideas about how the code could be made Hawaii friendly
Easy: simply use the "unwritten code" instead of the one published by County.
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quote:
Originally posted by The_Saints
Not strictly a code issue, more of a zoning issue, however, I lump them both together in the same bucket of dysfunction. Why can I not have a full kitchen in my ohana unit if I am on Ag zoned property? I am limited in how many of these accessory structures I can have. So it is not like I can create a little village of rentals on my lot. Why must I share the kitchen in my house with my in-laws? That's why you build an ohana structure, to keep them out THERE, so they don't have to come in HERE.
I totally agree! I would love to have my widowed father have his own little kitchen when he stays with us every winter! With my super early rising work schedule and long work days, my husband's severe food and chemical allergies, and the cost of food here in Hawaii, that simple change would make it so much easier to invite him to stay longer!
Carol
Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
Carol
Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
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"Codes are only considered recommendations for owner-builders and informed buyers signing a waiver."
Because every creature on this planet can choose how to build its own home, except for man. And they don't spend $100,000 or make a mortgage banker rich doing it either.
