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We are building an agacultural equipment storage building with 1/4 bath. 20'x32', half enclosed and half open. Storage shed 16'x20' and car port 16'x20' under one roof. The draftsman says that the car port corners will require sheer walls or concrete columns. I often see structures like this with 4x4 or 6x6 post and moderate sized diagonal braces. Seems like overkill. Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Sheer walls were introduced with the new building code, I believe. I know we needed to add them to our cottage as part of the process to get it permitted. Yes, it seems like overkill, but it's part making things more tenable in case of earthquake.
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Use a Simpson strong wall on each side of your carport opening to strengthen the "garage door" side, as your workshop suffices for shear wall on the other directions, and you will be fine. Otherwise looks like a steel reinforced concrete column is the next best choice for minimal "wall" on the carport side.
Architecturally speaking, the 1/2 shop, with a continuous roof over a carport would look pretty nice with round concrete columns holding up a heavy beam roof structure as a "lanai" type carport.
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introduced with the new building code
This. The generation of code can be inferred from the structural design. Formed concrete corner shear seems a little excessive, but simplifies the framing, and can be used to make a ground for the electrical.
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Thank you Tink & Kalakoa. I see that you totally get the picture. I am leaning towards reinforced concrete block corners 32'' or 40" on the side supporting 16' and 40" or 48" on the end supporting 20'. The inside of those corners can be used for storage unit, hose bibs and or surface mount elect. outlets. That would take a skilled mason that this carpenter is not. Also the outside of corners can be rock veneered if that would tie in with house.
Anyone have firsthand knowledge of a mason in the area that I can contact about a bid ?
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If you dry stack block and then glue it together from the exterior with surface bonding cement you can get the form for the rebar and concrete up without serious masonry skills. And that can also make it waterproof.
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Dry stack self-alinging block is a good sugestion. Can I stack a corner 2 blocks on one side and 2.5 on the outher 8' high, without going out of plumb (with no morter joints to keep it diled in) And are they strong enough to grout full height without a blowout. I am going to do some research starting with a visit to RCP a large masonary supply. I like the concept. Thank You John
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You can duplicate sheer-walls with cross strapping. May not be to code but is serves identical purpose. In a few years, building codes will require you to carve a house out of a solid block of steel.
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