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BEWARE-DOGS-Leilani Estates/Hawaiian Shores!
#31
That's bad news. I hope no one gets hurt!
Liz, my sympathies, how awful!

This topic reminds me, I woke up one day not too long ago and found a loose dog in my bedroom. i was definitely freaked out. I had opened the slider to the deck earlier and gone back to sleep. I never thought I would get invaded. Luckily for me the dog wasn't aggressive as I had nothing to protect myself with. I opened the closest door and shooed it out. Now I don't leave doors open, make sure the screens are closed.
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#32
Maybe one of the dogs should get hurt before a child gets hurt? Just sayin.

Andrew
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#33
My thoughts exactly. If it's as bad as it sounds I would have solved it already.

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Pua`a
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#34
Then put a collar/leash on it and tie it in the owners yard just to make your point.
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#35
Intentionally injuring an animal because it's unfortunate enough to have an idiot owner is not a very good option. Of course a person must defend their self and family, but how is shooting or poisoning someone's pet as a preventative measure going to create anything but hate and animosity?

Better option; Capture it, turn it in to the Humane society; the owner can get it back after paying substantial fees. The wallet effect is very effective in changing peoples behavior. (And it is 'peoples' behavior that is the root of the problem here).
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#36
This is FAIL idea and is getting into shaky ground...

enjoy your new enemies if you do this.

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Originally posted by Greg

Intentionally injuring an animal because it's unfortunate enough to have an idiot owner is not a very good option. Of course a person must defend their self and family, but how is shooting or poisoning someone's pet as a preventative measure going to create anything but hate and animosity?

Better option; Capture it, turn it in to the Humane society; the owner can get it back after paying substantial fees. The wallet effect is very effective in changing peoples behavior. (And it is 'peoples' behavior that is the root of the problem here).

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#37
[quote]Originally posted by 808blogger

This is FAIL idea and is getting into shaky ground...

enjoy your new enemies if you do this.

Just curious, what would you suggest to protect innocent folks from the dogs?

(edited to separate quote from my comment)
Tim

A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions--Confucius
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#38
Greg,

Cougars, bears, wolves, crocs and gators get "taken care" of all the time due to being a perpetual threat to humans. ... I see these dogs as nothing different. What would a cop do if one of these came at him ? Furthermore > I would opine hate and animousity has nothing to do with it.

Just speculation here but I would bet the owner who lets his dog run free would NOT EVER go back to pick it up for fear of being accused of something the dog did.
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#39
I'm a total advocate of self defense. A person has every right to take whatever steps are necessary to protect themselves when attacked.

But to "Maybe one of the dogs should get hurt before a child gets hurt?" is simply not going to work.

The dog owner is the problem and I don't see how this is going to change the owner's behavior. If anything, it will compound the situation by creating the only thing worse than an idiot dog owner; An idiot dog owner out for revenge. The above quote should be:"Better to take some smart, effective action against these irresponsible owners before a child gets hurt".

So read my earlier post again and don't assume that I advocate taking no action. I would only caution against taking ill-conceived knee jerk action.

We use a pig trap and coordinate with the humane society in our neighborhood. I's not totally effective, but we're working on it. There was a guy in our neighborhood about ten years ago that took it on himself to be the "executioner". The dogs are still here, but he's not.
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#40
Voice of reason, Greg. Amazing how quickly people turn to violence to try to solve their problems.
Many people consider their pets to be family, so I would be careful about pre-emptive killing.
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