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Signs of a declining economy
#21
Hi KathyH
Just a quick reply.
You are right of course that workers with experience are probably preferred but they don't always want to work nights or weekends or whatever. Still, I just started working in high school and kept at it. Most employeers are happy to train people that want to learn and want to work. It's the work 'ethic' that I looked for when I was hireing people rather than relying only on experience.


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#22
KathyH - Work ethic was probably the gist of my rant and I somehow went astray.

There is little work ethic - that is IMHO what saved people in the 30's.... people did what they had to do. In the 2010's, (many not all) people think some one will rescue them if they lose it all. In the 30's there was no welfare, there was no unemployment insurance, there wasn't any food banks, and yet people banded together and survived.

Shirley Issacs (with her husband George) who at one time owned much land between Kohala and Kona, took a train from Michigan to California in the 30's - rode like the hobo's - with a ham, and carrots from their garden (she never wanted to eat them since). Went to work at a retail store in LA....married then widowed, ...few years later met George... worked hard... amassed property piece by piece ... built a house in Hawaii Kai on the ocean.... built a $13M house in Kohala...

Those are the stories I like to hear. From nothing through hard work. She once told the cleaning people and I saw her do this - "I am not going to ask you to do something I wont do" - as Shirley scrubbed the toilet out when she was about 65.
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me."
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#23
There's the problem, as well as the answer:

A person has a $13,000,000 house, while another lives under the bridge.
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#24
Ya but what if the guy in the $13,000,000 house works his a$$ off during the week and twice on Sundays; and the fellow under the bridge can't drag his a$$ out of bed every morning. They both get what they deserve right?

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Originally posted by mailesomaha

There's the problem, as well as the answer:

A person has a $13,000,000 house, while another lives under the bridge.

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#25
I'm sorta "actions speak louder than words" so when I see a "poor" person with a smoldering cig between his lips or fingers and a "Big Gulp or soda" in the other hand it tells me he hasn't learned what I learned about being poor.

KathyH, 2007 really wasn't that long ago, how in H did anybody make it before then?????
QUOTE: ...What does an iPhone symbolize? Well, assuming the person has a service contract that he/she is paying on every month whether or not there's a phone, it's a meaningless expense to have the service with a lost phone. Also lost is the ability to communicate, to network, to seek work, to be in touch with family, to arrange medical care, to make contact in case of emergency on the road, and much more....

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#26
Everyone should try loosing everything then try keeping their only possessions safe and dry without a roof while waiting for a bakery to toss the old stuff into the dumster once in their life.

You can usually find change under the drive through windows to save for a special treat.

Imagine turf wars for can collection.

If you have an eye for it ... You can witness the demise of some of these folks over time ....

There is a new guy in town ... I seem him every couple days with his bag of cans ... A month ago he looked like another visitor fresh off the plane or ship ... Fresh clothes and a small back pack ... Would have never given a second look save for the giveaway bag of cans he was toting ... This is what caught my eye and I've been 'watching' him ever since ... Saw him yesterday and he is starting to look a little more shaggy + bent over walking.

I think I know where he camps out so gonna go ask his story one of these days.

Speculation is he put himeself in the situation and its only temporary. He could easily pass the book by its cover visual right now and go to job interviews but something is telling me he already has a good job somewhere else.

Zero sympathy for the young guys with the signs. To the mom in front of Safeway, where were the kids ???

One pack cigs = 7 double cheeseburgers now right ??? A pack a day 'saved' is enough to get off the street or even buy a car or plane ticket.



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#27
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Originally posted by mailesomaha

There's the problem, as well as the answer:

A person has a $13,000,000 house, while another lives under the bridge.


The Isaacs are rather well known in Waimea area for their philanthropy.

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#28
The current unemployment and economic situation has turned traditional thinking on it's head.

I know individuals who 10-years ago thought unemployment was a welfare program, today they are praying for unemployment insurance extension.

I have a college friend who years ago made good money developing computer systems to integrate call center operations overseas, and saw nothing wrong with outsourcing. Today the only job he was able to get was at Best Buys repairing computers because his job was outsourced.

People who thought they were in secure management positions are finding themselves unemployed.

Even those who started their own business are going under as cutback forces people to curtail buying.

I look at all that is happening and simple say "There for the grace of God"..... Everyone, could be that next unemployment claim, food stamp application, foreclosure notice being taped to the door, or standing in line for that 1 Burger King job.
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#29
I volunteer here in WA at our local food bank. We try for a supplement for three days a month, and never send anyone home empty handed. All kinds of people use our services. Some smell like cigarettes and alcohol. Some I see working at jobs that just don't pay enough. (many are working caregivers for the elderly) Everyone, no matter what their flaws deserves to not suffer from hunger. Sometimes it is a matter of lack of education, addiction, poor choices, and simple bad luck. I agree, support your food bank and soup kitchens. We have been very lucky that our community is very supportive. We fill a genuine, and growing need.



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#30
They both get what they deserve right?

My bad, I was wrong, there it is.

People make other people poor.

"I worked my arse off to get this 17,000 square foot house, said the Yamada's".
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