Building code changes

[punaticbychoice]

Dobanion:
Quoting Victor Hugo: The Law in it's majesty forbids both the rich and the poor from sleeping under bridges.

[MarkP]

To be the devil's advocate there is no way for you to know why the cop tackled him. At least there is no way for me to know that you knew why the cop tackled him, based on the evidence you related.

[TrevorKane]

About that new gym... DeSoto County (FL) built a new Civic Center in 2003ish, planned on using it as a shelter from the start. They got to use it as a shelter during hurricane Charlie - roof came off.

I think they had written themselves the same exemptions mentioned above into their building code for shelters.

[Kapohocat]

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Originally posted by MarkP

So considering that the majority of Puna builders don't get permits anyway, what difference will any of this make? Will there be a change in enforcement?

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YUP. Happening already for enforcement. My friend called in her final on her second lot. 1st lot had been finalled few years ago.

Inspector could just see top of storage bldg that is 288 SF on 1t lot and said you gotta permit that. No elec no plumbing to it. He did not say anything to her understanding to the numerous lot owners of other unpermitted structures he could see from the road on other people's lots.

Its kinda like gun ownership **[][!][], only those who go through permitting process get penalized.

[Rob Tucker]

Yeah, permitting has built in disincentives. You get a permit and you get unexpected hassles. No permit, no hassle. The only rub is no permit, no mortgage.

[YurtGirl]

I'd hardly call no mortgage a rub

But they are cracking down on people who don't have permits too, and the code changes give rights to inspectors to come onto your property with police escort given (I believe it's 48?) hours notice if they believe you have unpermitted "illegal" structures on your property. Then they cite, then after a month if it's still up and not in their system of permitting, they fine, then fine some more, then fine some more...

There are ways to handle them. Open a permit. There's nothing on the books as to how long a permit can be open. There is the line stating something to the effect of if work stops for more than 120 days then the permit is void. That's obviously not enforced either. (So why have it on the books is my main question) But if it ever is enforced, or time frames on permits are put into place/enforced, then we're going to see a REAL big can of worms cracked open...

I've seen it on some permit paperwork that a person has 3 years to complete their permit or file for an extension. When I went to the last building codes meeting, none of the department heads knew what I was talking about. Anyone else seen that?

[Rob Tucker]

No mortgage means you are unlikely to be able to sell the property. That is a major negative.

[YurtGirl]

Ah yes... unless the owner can carry the mortgage. I see your point. I don't think of building a house to sell it, so I don't think of that side of things sometimes. Valid point, for sure.

Chic eco, so far the state hasn't really gotten involved in housing the homeless as far as I've seen. They talk like they care, but that's about as far as it goes. Most monies for transitional housing and such come from grants that people like those involved in CAP and other agencies that work with the effects of homelessness file for. Koloko was just built for an incredibly steep price and there may have been some allotment from state government there, but I believe most of that was through a federal grant. Add to that for the amount of money spent, they can only house a few families... it seemed like a big waste to me, but at least something was heading in a positive direction. For the cost, they could have housed dozens upon dozens of families in more affordable and very comfortable housing units. I've gone to the counsel meetings, spoke on this topic. Got feedback that the land is available. And there's where it ends. Sadly. For transitional housing or low income housing, there's more than just the cost of housing, there's the need to manage it. Too often large amounts of money comes through, but by the time it gets around to actually helping those intended, it's been frittered away in the paperwork and poor decisions.

The agencies that most help the homeless are not government funded, but community funded. Catholic Social Services, Turning point, Salvation Army, CAP (Community Alliance Partnership), etc. If anyone wants to help in this area, contact some of these groups, they're always looking for volunteers.

[Rob Tucker]

A big deterrent to affordable housing, in Puna at least, is zoning. Puna generally lacks zoning which would attract investment in higher density housing. Not everyone needs, or can afford, a one acre lot with a 3+2 house. So the county is in a position to assist but seems to prefer the current method of spot zoning which lends itself to favoritism and games.

[Radiopeg]

I have been cruising the internet looking up tropical building, when I came across this story:
* Now we take the attitude (for right or wrong) that the house itself will be protection enough.
* I was reminded of these a couple of weeks ago when I fitted a new lock to an old mate's bathroom. I got through the face ply, drilling my 2 1/4" hole and hit steel. The outside face of the door had a thin steel plate just under the ply skin, to improve impact resistance. His bathroom, a small compact room with the facilities and small window opening was his designated cyclone shelter, as was common in those days.

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