HPP Board 2014

[csgray]

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Originally posted by Karma96749

Carol says:
[quote]Originally posted by csgray

[quote]The Hui is virtually never used on M-F weekdays, very few people or activities would be displaced,
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I say:
If there is an emergency situation, many services that would need to use the Hui during a crisis would be displaced.
Surely there must be decent buildings as large as our HPP Hui that are available during weekdays.
What about churches?
Center for Spiritual Living has nice new building.

Look at all the complaints voiced here when our HPP Hui was not available for use during weekday hours for emergency agencies to use during the hurricane crisis.
When a crisis happens, such as Hwy. 130 closing, we need to use the only building we have for the largest subdivision in Hawaii as a crisis emergency building.

Do not commit to tie up our only building. We may need it for emergency supplies during daylight hours.

Karma

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If there is an emergency of the sort Iselle was it is highly unlikely that school would be held anyway, or HPPOA could write into the lease that the Hui reverts to other uses if there is an emergency. For these students and school this IS an emergency, but you want to keep the Hui an empty building just in case there might be a different emergency?

Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb

[kalakoa]

HPP is larger (in land area or population, your choice) than many towns.

Yet HPP isn't allowed to have any services for its residents.

Decades later, these deficiencies are now being reconsidered as a way to deal with "extraordinary circumstances".

Am I the only one who thinks this is ironic and possibly even funny?

[csgray]

I think Karma is suffering from a bad case of NIMBYism, or else is just afraid of kids and using the "emergency use of the building" as a red herring. When I was in HS a tornado destroyed a neighboring town and all its schools. We took in over 500 students, joining our HS of only 700, for 3 months, because it was the right thing to do. I guess it is a good thing we didn't live in HPP, or those kids would have been told to find another place to go to school.

Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb

[msky]

FYI, this is what the monthly HPP Activity Center Calendar looks like. The only variables are on Saturdays (sometimes Sundays) when parties and other events are scheduled.

http://www.hppoa.com/Activity%20Center/C...lendar.pdf

MORGAN SKY

[csgray]

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Originally posted by Karma96749

Carol,
Pot calling the kettle syndrome.
Maybe you should go back and re-read your aloha on others using HPP roads.

There are not other alternatives for roads.
There are other buildings the school can use.

HPPOA came under fire from you for not being emergency services friendly. When Hwy. 130 closes we need to have a building for the HPP and others to stage services.

I am all for the school being in any other building that is not used during the day (churches?)
Just NOT the ONLY building we have as an HPPOA community.

Or how about setting up structures on the HPPOA land behind the HUI?
I am sure we can find some place in HPP for the school besides the ONLY building the community has for services.

Carol, it's not black or white. I have kids. I believe in schools. I see your point. Try living a little more in the middle ground. Check your own NIMBY posts on sharing our roads.

Karma

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I never said our road shouldn't be used, I said we should be fairly compensated for wear and tear and that dust should be properly dealt with, both things I do not trust our board or the county to make sure happens. Lots of people accused me of saying the roads should not be used, and the former member who should not be named, did say so, but I never did.

Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb

[snorkle]

To paraphrase karma;
"I am all for the school being in any other building that is not used during the day (churches?)
Just NOT the ONLY building we as an HPPOA community are not using."

[csgray]

HPP will almost certainly be on the Hilo side of the lava, the highway being cut off is a genuine emergency for the people living on the OTHER side of that lava, not the Hilo side. HPP will not be needing to stage materials unless lava invades HPP, in which case the Hui will right in its path and no one will be using the Hui.

Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb

[kalakoa]

At the risk of repeating myself...

You'd think the lava flow would be a big enough problem for people to set aside their petty bickering.

[snorkle]

Karma;

Paraphrase; "a restatement of a text or passage giving the meaning in another form, as for clearness; rewording. "

I take full credit for most of the sarcasm found here. Brilliant satire can indeed be difficult for some to understand.

[kalakoa]

Debating weither or not to use our HPP hui for a school or where else we can have the school on HPP land is not "petty bickering".

HPP should already have a school within its boundaries, and it shouldn't take a volcanic eruption to force the issue.

The arguments predate the current eruption by decades.

Of course, I don't live (or own land) in HPP, so my opinions on this issue can safely be ignored, even if they're directly applicable to every other "private" subdivision.