Palikapu Dedman with the Pele Defense Fund

[Punatic007]

Industry standard for geothermal industry is a 10 mile buffer zone. Let the company buy out all lands at fair market value within that zone and then you have a fair playing field. Until then it's violating civil rights, unethical and illegal to put highly toxic heavy industrial sites in an area when people live, work and go to school. God bless Dedman!

[Nadamucho]

Punatic, that's an interesting industry standard statistic, about the 10 mile buffer zone - had not heard that before! If so, then it's shocking that the geothermal plant was allowed to be located there, and to continue to operate despite the well-documented health issues it has created. Do you have some links to that information? I would think this needs to be brought into much wider awareness.

[opihikao]

There is no "standard" 10 mile buffer zone. Nowhere. In the whole wide world.



JMO.

[opihikao]

Back to topic, this comment on the Tribune Herald article is worth consideration:

http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/loc...qus_thread

I'm most interested in the fact that the intent is to identify health and safety issues, yet see a dearth of Hawaiian health resources as participants and consultants. Always grateful for the good works of these community-based and environmental organizations, there is a well-established Native Hawaiian Health Board in Papa Ola Lôkahi, a Native Hawaiian Health Care System on Hawai'i Island in Hui Mâlama Ola Na ‘Ôiwi, a Dept. of Native Hawaiian Health at UH medical school, and an entire arena of researchers in the Hawaiian health arena and Hawaiian-serving health organizations throughout the pae ‘âina. If the existing commission overlooked the kanaka maoli community the first time around, perhaps its wisest move would be to step back and let the Hawaiian health community assess its own needs, issues and strengths with the approved budget.

JMO.

[kalakoa]

Let the company buy out all lands at fair market value within that zone

Exactly -- by paying royalties into a fund administered by the government, who then spends the money on things other than preemptive buyouts.

[ironyak]

opihikao - they accepted over $2 million dollars in "settlement". Auwe!

ironyak - Are you equally upset with county, state, and PGV for using our money to settle what are implied to be baseless claims without merit?

opihikao - Absolutely. Except it is County funds used, not the State, nor PGV.

From 07/31/2012: http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14801&SearchTerms=settlements

opihikao - I wonder, however, for the 70+ who sued and "won" by settling out of court (claiming to be paid "millions of dollars"), be construed as a "successful suit"? Many testified at council meetings that they were plaintiffs and got "settlements".
ORMAT/PGV paid the plaintiffs without any admission of fault as I understand the settlement agreement.

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Sorry for re-quoting, just trying to clarify the "millions of dollars" in settlements. This of course does not include other damages paid out by PGV in separate suits, nor associated legal fees for the state and county on these matters.

It appears PGV has paid more in direct settlements with undisclosed terms than for any health surveys/assessments/studies to date including county expenditures from the Geothermal Asset Fund? Thoughts on why this would be?

[lavalava]

Dedman has some nerve saying that PGV impacts one race more than another.

[Anxious Messiah]

quote:

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Originally posted by opihikao

Our (my ohana) kupuna would not appreciate such a display of disdain and disrespect. We were taught you lose credibility when stating your position arrogantly, and haughtily. If you know you are in the right, no need to be confrontational.

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Unless attacked, I would add.

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Don't speak unless you can improve on the silence.

[Guest]

I have a lot of respect for Dedman because he is standing up for the aina. He wants to protect what is sacred to him for the sake of future generations. If you look at much of the mainland it is very polluted and people are getting sick from it. God bless this Hawaiian for wanting to protect his Hawaii.

[dakine]

The question of humility, of aloha, which seems to be an undercurrent to this thread, brings to mind the saying:

Do Not Mistake My Aloha for Weakness

Which (for me) begs the question: For how long should a subjugated people, who's way it to see the good, god, in all living things, be silent in the face of injustice?