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Standing Rock protests are serious opposition to bad environmental and energy policy. They are being met with force.
TMT is beneficial to the community, science and humanity. TMT is being opposed by a destructive theatre of the absurd.
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Could we also have a standing rock situation developing here on our Mauna Kea next year over this TMT project?
Hawaii's government is too "polite" to use force against the protectors -- couldn't even manage to prosecute for illegal structures/camping/waste disposal (under existing "rules" that are "for everyone").
Hundreds of Indian Tribes that have now come together at standing rock willing to bury their past pains and differences
The various Hawaiian "tribes" can't even agree on whether or not TMT should be built.
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OHA, Police, and DLNR officers could choose to protect we the people and not the interests of large outside corporations and their rubber stamping "illegal" processes.
Native Hawaiians are divided almost 50-50 on the issue, so to be fair, OHA, Police, and DLNR officers need to protect both sides. If the TMT is a rubber stamp process, it is the longest, slowest, most deliberate rubber stamping in the history of planet earth.
I doubt whether the TMT when built will discover an alien rubber stamp procedure any more tortoise-like (even if slower, nearly imperceptibly crawling space tortoises are discovered in the future) no matter how far out in the universe it's lenses will peer.
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Protectors of Mauna Kea should pay very close attention to the standing rock situation and how it's being handled by Corporate America and the military.
No. Scientific research cannot be meaningfully compared to energy resource exploitation. Even the $1.4B construction budget is pocket change compared to Big Oil. There is approximately zero possibility of corporate or military involvement.
"The community" really needs to start thinking about what happens if the TMT isn't built -- the island is about to be branded "hostile to business" (as if there was any doubt), once outside investors stop bringing money to the economy, it will be up to us to make up the difference, probably with tax and price increases.
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Check out this Hawaiian astronomer in support of the TMT situation
https://www.facebook.com/KeckObservatory...491608247/
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standing rock situation.
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Scientific research cannot be meaningfully compared to energy resource exploitation.
I don't see any comparison between the TMT and Standing Rock either. You can pick out micro-similarities:
Native vs Government
David vs Goliath
Us vs Them
and sure both protests involve rocks, Hawaiian Road Boulders and Dakota's Standing Rock, but if you look at the big picture and larger issues behind each situation, any similarities vanish.
I saw the tracks immediately - they swirled back & forth across the shuffled sand of the path. They seemed the design of indecision, but I am not sure. Mary Oliver
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Case, who was a plaintiff in the TMT lawsuit, said both issues [Standing Rock and TMT] come down to protecting water. Some TMT opponents say they fear the telescope will pollute an aquifer under the mountain, a claim project supporters say is unfounded.
I didn't know the case came down to clean water. I have to assume I've been taking crazy pills then.
It's ridiculous they accuse a zero-discharge facility of polluting the aquifer but I bet all of them happily live in houses with cess pools that are 13,000 feet closer to the aquifer.
