Reward for stolen items!

[bluesboy]

Sorry to hear this. Thanks for sharing.

According to police, engravings do help, gps tracker are acknowledged by police, and bait vehicles aren't generally useful.

[JG-HPP]

I met a woman yesterday who had been robbed in this general area, the thieves making off with everything. They suspect meth-head squatters near by. The thieves even left a convenient trail of stolen items back to their lair. The police told her "we can't enter the property without permission from the legal owner." They didn't seem to be too interested in tracking down the owner of record, though.

Anyone know if that is true? I've been told by animal control that they can't enter property without permission (even when an animal has been clearly abandoned by a tenant and the house is vacant) but the police?

[randomq]

Police can enter if there is evidence in plain view that crime is being committed, or if there is a risk that evidence would be destroyed or someone fleeing from police would escape in the time it would take to obtain a warrant.

I think the trail of stolen goods would be enough. Even if it weren't, they could apply for a warrant to search.

[bluesboy]

what is recommended is to have an on-island representative. that person has legal authority to grant permission to police to enter a property, or to press charges on behalf of the property owner, when the property owner is off-island and/or unavailable.

in this case, also letting your neighbors know you are away may have helped the situational awareness.

and when you are away, have someone check on your property AT LEAST EVERY FEW DAYS by physically going on the property and inspecting your belongings. obviously a security system and cameras would have helped.

bottom line - this is the wild west. if you aren't actively protecting it - it will walk away.

[bluesboy]

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Originally posted by JG-HPP

I met a woman yesterday who had been robbed in this general area, the thieves making off with everything. They suspect meth-head squatters near by. The thieves even left a convenient trail of stolen items back to their lair. The police told her "we can't enter the property without permission from the legal owner." They didn't seem to be too interested in tracking down the owner of record, though.

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the real question is - why wasn't the woman who was robbed interested in tracking down the owner? the burden should not lie with the police, but rather with the responsible property owner or tenant. if the victims don't care, why should the police?

[kalakoa]

if the victims don't care, why should the police?

Why is it the victims' job to figure out whom the police should investigate?

Not to mention the part where police can't seem to use that information.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

police told her "we can't enter the property without permission from the legal owner."
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why wasn't the woman who was robbed interested in tracking down the owner? the burden should not lie with the police

CSI: Hilo Kapu
Worst cop show ever.

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[bluesboy]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

if the victims don't care, why should the police?

Why is it the victims' job to figure out whom the police should investigate?

Not to mention the part where police can't seem to use that information.

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because there are thousands and thousands of lots/homes/people, and only about 10 police officers.

what information can't police seem to use?

everybody wants to blame the police for their problems. seems lame.

[kalakoa]

thousands and thousands of lots/homes/people, and only about 10 police officers.

How high would our taxes need to be in order to get the level of protection people demand?

what information can't police seem to use?

Anecdotal evidence suggests that "evidence" (such as "here is video of the thieves") is met with skepticism ("well, we can't authenticate that"). But what do I know?

everybody wants to blame the police for their problems.

Well, since the police are the only ones who can carry a firearm...

[randomq]

Yeah, I know of two victims that had security cam photos/video of identified criminals, and the police refused to act. Even pointed out the house the criminals were squatting in.

Even though their are thousands of lots, putting some of the career criminals away would probably reduce their workload in the long run.