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Special Use permit or rezoning or whatever County might decide is appropriate. Actually the County can decide $0.00 is the appropriate amount if our Council Person is sponsoring it. A Special use permit is relatively easy actually, especially if Planning Dept is for it.
"Buy the land, then buy the mailboxes, then pay rent on top? Sounds like the classic "pay twice for the privilege of paying again""
You buy a house, a car, a cow and pay on it, taxes, paint repairs, feed. you are only paying for maintenance on the boxes like most everything else. Buying in is not mandatory. If it's not a good deal for you don't join.
"Exactly: I didn't buy a share of the post office, I was renting all along." Oh yes you did, but indirectly. Your taxes bought the Post Office, which charges you rent.
I am assuming we get past the dysfunctional board problem or bypass it.
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https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal...o-know.htm
The Postal Service receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations.
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Check out #7 of kalakoa's link:
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The Postal Service is the only organization in the country that has the resources, network infrastructure and logistical capability to deliver to every residential and business address in the nation.
Hmmmm...
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deliver to every residential and business address in the nation
The vast subdivisions aren't "residential"...
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The USPS began moving towards cluster boxes for rural customers over 25 years ago. Once again, Hawaii is the last to hear of things!
https://www.prc.gov/sites/default/files/.../rural.pdf
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There is talk that Dist2 R Mizuba VP is planning to continue w/her agenda...to clear 1-2 acres on the deed restricted lot.
At the membership meeting she said, "The Mailbox Committee is a BOARD committee!!!" whatever that means....
If she does move forward, they'll be spending OUR money for the BOARD's Mailbox Committee's agenda.
Questions.. will their plan be ADA compliant? Was an engineer involved? Who's money are they going to use? Is it road fee money for road maintenance, which instead should be used to make our roads safer by striping and installing reflectors on our main drags?
Another question: Oddly, the GM said at the January 2018 board meeting, out of the blue, that he wanted to start installing 4 way stops on main drags to slow speeders down. I wonder if the first 4 way stop will be at the corner of where the mailboxes are going to go? If so, it means that the BOARD'S Mailbox Committee's plan was to plow ahead all along w/the help of the GM, despite the deed restrictions and the board discussion that "we can't use that land" while L Laucik was board president.
Please pay attention to what's going on...it's YOUR money and your liability they are willing to risk if the BOARD'S Mailbox Committee plows forward.
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At the membership meeting she said, "The Mailbox Committee is a BOARD committee!!!"
So does HPP have two Mailbox Committees, one Board-approved and the other independent?
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So Old Croc, that is a fine question. Let's see, the board meaning Ruth Mazuba, District 2, created a mailbox committee a couple years ago (I believe it was) and then proceeded to do nothing except cause a lot of angst and make ridiculous statements and promises even though any normal minded person would simply ask, "what is the board doing wasting their time on mailboxes, don't they have road business to conduct/misconduct?".
As we saw at the Membership committee, it is the Association who makes the decisions affecting their desires according to the Bylaws in Art. IV.
If the Membership decides to create a committee, the Bylaws allow it for any purpose that is appropriate according to Art. IV. A reasonable, Bylaw following board would have known that and respected their real duties. Not this group. So, yes I fear the Association will have to endure yet more drama created by the board because they will continue to claim they are the "real committee" instead of the correct action being... relinquish the job to the owners of the Corporation.
And for your consideration, I have heard that the office employees have lied to one of the members of the proper Mailbox Committee while she visited the office today to schedule the library for the first committee meeting.
The employee told her that the board has not yet approved the membership committee and so they can't get the library unless they rent it on their on dime.
Too many lies and obvious obstruction for me to respond to at this time (right LBC?).
I'm also hearing that the office employees are trying to get a copy of the motions passed Sunday evening. My guess, and it isn't too hard to imagine, they have already contacted an attorney Monday morning and the attorney needs the language of the motions in order to argue against them.
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From your bylaws :
(b) Committees of the Membership. Committees of the membership are elected by the membership and include, but are not
limited to, a bylaws committee, a finance committee, and a nominating committee. Committees of the membership are
advisory. Actions of these committees are subject to review and approval of the board.
