HPP Biz

[mermaid53]

Obie, if you live in Kapoho, then why is it that you show up on every HPP thread right after I've posted? It's like ringing the dinner bell and here you come...

You obviously don't know OUR bylaws nor does your people who are on the board.

[Obie]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

Read your bylaws.

Bylaws are apparently not relevant or necessary, or there wouldn't be a problem.

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They have bylaws and Mermaid53 has a comprehension problem !

[mermaid53]

And you never did know HPP's bylaws even when you were on the Bylaw Committee and still after 2 yrs haven't learned anything. Who are you to instruct anyone?

Your board people obviously have a comprehension problem since they're always hiring attorneys on members' road fees to interpret them....

[kalakoa]

They have bylaws and Mermaid53 has a comprehension problem !

Seems to me the HPP threads can all be summarized as "rogue board refuses to follow the bylaws" followed by "everyone vote to replace the rogue board".

As a non-HPP resident/landowner, it's obvious that I simply don't understand their governance.

Then again, if HPP were fully functional, the residents would find themselves gentrified right out of their subdivision. I believe this is actually the long-range plan.

[Kenney]

Unfortunately Kalakoa, even voting to replace the rogue BOD won’t help anything, since they have already delayed the process, and tampered so much with the candidates, and ballots. The same people will recycle themselves into the new BOD. I fear nothing but fraudulent actions and elections from the BOD until the IRS, Lender, or AG get involved. Maybe THEY can force a Forensic Audit, where the Membership has failed so we can finally see what this BOD is hiding.

[kalakoa]

even voting to replace the rogue BOD won't help anything

Much like voting for Mayor, Council, Governor, Senators or Representatives.

They got theirs (used to be yours), so it doesn't matter what you wanted.

[Kenney]

Yup. Exactly.

[mermaid53]

As a non-HPP resident/landowner, it's obvious that I simply don't understand their governance.

Then again, if HPP were fully functional, the residents would find themselves gentrified right out of their subdivision. I believe this is actually the long-range plan.

HPP's had no recognizable governance for awhile which is what happens when they don't follow the bylaws and state law... it has morphed into a whacko dictatorship. Continuance of this is these rep's long range plan and it will continue if people vote these same reps back on the board in this election.

First we need to find out what's going on with our money via a Forensic Analysis since the majority board and some employees are obstructing transparency which obviously raises BIG red flags if they've nothing to hide. This has been going on for almost 3 yrs now because the membership at large haven't held them accountable.

The proposed long range plan for members who voted at the membership meeting, is professional management. As some of you know, board obstruction is going on right now to prevent both items from proceeding, hence the obstruction of the Bylaw's Committee ballot being mailed to the entire membership for vote.

As I said earlier in another post here, the board voted AGAIN, on 18 April 2018, to hire an attorney to find out if they can stop the ballot, and shut down the membership committees that the members voted for. Don't know if the 2nd vote to seek legal counsel is for a 2nd opinion.

It's unethical and reckless spending of OUR money, to challenge the membership's votes and we don't get equal opportunity to represent our side to the attorney....it's all one sided, and that should be challenged with the board. We should also demand they post their letter/s to the attorney/s and the attorney's response to them, all correspondence in case this is a 2nd opinion they're seeking.

BTW, the League of Womens Voter organization received an HPP bylaw proposal ballot in their mailbox. The LWV had declined us, therefore, no contract had been signed, yet they received an HPP ballot and were not happy about that since they are receiving ballots from another client right now. I have no other information as to whether they received more than 1 ballot, and appt'd rep Patrick Murdoch would have that information. Someone on the board or an employee had access to the BLC ballot, as the BLC had sent them a sample to send to the printers, that had the LWV address on it (wishful thinking on BLC's part to have LWV do the ballot counting).

Complacency is our enemy...please keep on keeping on. The only way change is going to happen is to be part of that change. Please attend meetings, both board and membership and participate by voting if your district is up for election.

[kalakoa]

when they don't follow the bylaws and state law

Again: given that "membership" and "voting" are defined in the bylaws, it's not clear how ANY changes can be made "within the system".

HPP residents that want reform should form a new "community association" and collect donations to file lawsuits from outside the HPPPOA.

Disclaimer: I obviously don't understand HOA governance (or lack thereof).

[mermaid53]

There's a Special "Emergency" Board of Directors meeting this Sunday, 20 May at 3 PM. The agenda states "Right of Entry Agreement County of Hawaii". There are board members listed at the bottom of the agenda that aren't on the board today, so please disregard the error. The month of May isn't posted on the agenda either.

At the 16 May board meeting this past Wednesday, the recording secretary cancelled due to personal matters, a regular board meeting couldn't be held. On the agenda was "County Easement, Government Beach and Railroad to Makuu. a. Thomas Yeh b. County Representative" so it was decided to have them speak to the board since they were scheduled.

Eileen O'Hara, Thomas Yeh (HPP's attorney) and county officials attended. Thomas Yeh stated the county had contacted him since he represented HPP pertaining to the emergency access into HPP back in 2014 during the last lava flow.

He stated that Statute Chap 127 created in 2014 gives the Governor and the Civil Defense Director power to take control of roads whether they're private, absent of agreement. He stated the county wants to work with us and asked him to come up with another agreement similar to the one in 2014. i.e. The county would do road maint with wear and tear, and if needed, widen the road adding gravel to the easements.

The county officials discussed that if Hwy 132 is closed, then access would be via 4 corners up 137 Beach Rd to Kahakai to 130. The discussion was on Railroad as a possible emergency access, not Beach into HPP. The officials were only doing their due diligence to meet with the board and there is no "emergency" at this time. There's also different HPP board reps today than in 2014, so they met this board.

The board couldn't vote on any "agreement" since they couldn't hold a legal meeting, hence the meeting this Sunday. IMO putting "Emergency" into the title of the agenda is misleading as our attorney and the county were not treating it as such, and stated the use of RR, or Beach may not occur at all. They were just getting their ducks in a row.

If RR is used, they'd do the same thing, no right turns onto Makuu, all traffic would be funneled up Makuu. They would put up signs and use Directional Controls. If Beach were to be used at some point, the peanut gallery offered different options to control traffic from speeding across the park to get up to the highway...i.e. police presence and possible ticketing for speeding. A county official said possibly Reserve personnel presence as another option to enforce traffic flow up Makuu.

Mr Yeh reminded the board and the peanut gallery that we all need to work together to help our neighbors. That if HPP was in the same position, we would hope for the same with our neighbors.
(edited to correct the spelling of the attorney's name)