Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here)

[Guest]

Think about what you need from China that may still be in the store...

It's nice to know we have never depended on them for food.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

From a social order perspective, if our economy tanks,

Here are a few ideas getting kicked around, from The NY Times:

large-scale stimulus bill...

... tax relief for airlines and cruise ships, along with potential efforts to calm markets and reduce volatility in trading... a possible bank holiday, in which financial institutions are closed.

...reinstating the “uptick rule” (for stock short sellers)

...aid to sectors... like tourism

... allowing some industries to defer tax payments... talking to financial regulators about ways to allow banks increase lending to specific industries.

Mr. Trump has suggested that he would be happy to see Democrats in Congress move to cut payroll taxes for a year.

[ironyak]

Italy Plans Large-Scale Lockdown in Country’s North to Fight Coronavirus

Yeah, but much like Wuhan, many people ran for the exit shortly before the quarantine was announced. So they can try to gain some control inside the hot zone, but it's not stopping the spread into the wider country and beyond.
https://www.tpi.it/cronaca/coronavirus-s...source=rdt (google translate - watch the video)

Italy's healthcare system in the area is already the brink.
https://twitter.com/RachelDonadio/status...6412567559

Things are getting ugly quick... The knock-on effects of all this will be immense. Be prepared!

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Hey, senior citizens, we already said it’s best you stay home. That implies you shouldn’t fly, right? Good, we wouldn’t want any unnecessary panic by announcing a no-fly recommendation from health officials. Out loud. Through the media. In public. Nothing going on here... Everything’s fine...

The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus, a federal official told The Associated Press.
https://apnews.com/921ad7f1f08d7634bf681ba785faf269

[TomK]

"China and Italy have 2 things in common, they get their fresh food from open markets and they are touchy feely with the food before they buy it. In Wuhan the raw unwrapped meat is handled and squeezed over and over until purchased. They have a way of deciding if the meat is tender if it bounces back or not when squeezed.

Something to avoid doing, lol."

Damn. Whenever I buy Huli Huli chicken here I always squeeze all of the suckers to see which is the most succulent. I guess I need to give up that practice.

[PaulW]

Been to Italy and China, never seen people squeezing their meat in public but I’ll pay more attention next time!

Some useful debunking of fake cures courtesy of the beeb :
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51735367

Some here like glindakine think cures should be accepted until disproven, errr, that’s not a safe approach.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Hawaii can only test 20 people a day currently

From Hawaii Senator Brian Schatz:
It’s a real public service to report data as it comes in since CDC will not. But that 512 number (nationwide) is from only those who have been tested. So, we just need to be ready for it to go up in a somewhat alarming trajectory as testing ramps up.

[kander]

Outside of testing, Just listen to the ambulance sirens as they will likely be called out more and more often.

[Punatic007]

Asked the latex glove wearing cashier at Ross today if she was interacting with customers showing signs of having a virus. Shockingly she told me too many who have a cold, flu or whatever there were more than she's ever seen and she was not happy about it at all.

[kander]

007 now that we find out the Grand Princess had Wuhan Virus last month, its about the right timing to see a lot of community transmission running about. I expect things to degrade in the next couple weeks. Considering that #2 on Oahu likely picked it up in Seattle where its endemic it does not look good.
And yes, Dont worry about the looks you get running round in a biohazzard suit. He who laughs last.