Adios Muchachos, and Aloha

[TomK]

Come on, MyManao, please tell us who "he" is and how his boat was rocked. As for barking, aren't you doing a lot of that yourself and running away? Why don't you take your own advice and stick around? Give us your opinion of iquetzal's "paper" and why it should be accepted by the scientific community.

[kander]

Considering how tainted the science has been over the past couple years, I dont see any harm in promoting his paper. At least nobody will die from it. And its quite well written. So its certainly convincing from that standpoint.
I didnt see the part in it where Hawaiians were navigating interstellar space in it though. That part must have not been included outside this forum.

[randomq]

If anyone listened to the TMT contested case hearings, they already know teleportation exists, so all of this is kinda moot. To Kander's point, though, maybe the nanotechnology in the fake/poison vaccines cancels out the teleportation ability. Only time will tell, but it's obvious to me that dead reckoning across the ocean by the stars or tracking bird migrations has a direct relationship with interstellar travel. In fact, I would go so far as to say first peoples around the globe would already be in space, if not for the colonizers. They pretty much had everything figured out 1000 years ago. We should go back to those times, and the way things are going we probably will!

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Considering how tainted the science has been over the past couple years,

Science?  Perhaps we should first consider how social media has tainted the ability to recognize fact from fiction over the last decade?

[kander]

Considering how tainted the science has been over the past couple years,

Science?  Perhaps we should first consider how social media has tainted the ability to recognize fact from fiction over the last decade?

Whats to consider? Either the data shows something to be true, or the data does not. No amount of echo chamber/obfustication/lies/doublespeak/marketing/threats will be able to cover the stink for long.

[kalakoa]

Storming off in a huff is infantile -- don't fall for it.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

echo chamber/obfustication/lies/doublespeak/marketing/threats…
 will prolong the stink for a long, long, long time

That’s what I’ve observed.

[TomK]

Considering how tainted the science has been over the past couple years, I dont see any harm in promoting his paper. At least nobody will die from it. And its quite well written. So its certainly convincing from that standpoint.
I didnt see the part in it where Hawaiians were navigating interstellar space in it though. That part must have not been included outside this forum.

For crying out loud, read his original post:

https://punaweb.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=22864

The paper he or she claims to have written has nothing to do with Hawaiian wayfinding but whines about it anyway. And he doesn't say Hawaiians navigated interstellar space, he claims that Hawaiians invented a way to navigate it. Please get your facts right.

Finally, if it's well-written it must be OK? What kind of logic is that? I could write a well-written sentence and claim something that's entirely untrue, but in your eyes that is convincing?

[MyManao]

Come on, MyManao, please tell us..

Tell you what? I am here, I see you whine, but man I said my piece, succinctly. I do not see any reason to explain.

[VancouverIslander]

Considering how tainted the science has been over the past couple years, I dont see any harm in promoting his paper. At least nobody will die from it. And its quite well written. So its certainly convincing from that standpoint.
I didnt see the part in it where Hawaiians were navigating interstellar space in it though. That part must have not been included outside this forum.

Science hasn't been tainted. Politicians have tainted the view of science with massive amounts of misinformation, but I don't see how this is relevant to this guy's science fiction being rejected by scientific journals no matter how well written it might be.