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06-18-2023, 02:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-18-2023, 04:25 AM by HereOnThePrimalEdge.)
And your point is?
Reality is difficult to grasp.
More difficult than prying a gun from Charlton Heston’s cold, dead hands.
(To make my point perfectly clear, if you buy a gun to protect yourself on Big Island, that probably won’t happen if you go by the number of reports of people successfully defending their home with a weapon. Unless you use a can of pork & beans)
https://punaweb.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=13597&highlight=Beans
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This has become a discussion about growing apples that taste like oranges on a grapefruit tree!
Buying a gun for home protection is a HELL OF A LOT more involved than just buying a gun. I agree, most people who do end up legally buying a gun for home protection fail at successfully defending themselves or their home due to lack of training as well as an ego that makes the owner think the gun is a substitute for an increased size of a certain male body part.
I can see a tremendous validity in what Aaron suggested about more or less being the equivalent of being police certified to buy a weapon when faced with what has happened in society the last few years. But as Aaron also stated, there are more guns in America than people.
Having said all that, I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that I highly doubt the 4 people arrested as well as the victim obtained ANY of the guns thru legal documented processes.
I will also say that a can of pork and beans (or dog food as we saw in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood) can be quite effective at defense. The only difference is the weapon. But the will to definitively use that weapon has to be present on the first place. (Let's not confuse the will to use ANY weapon for defense against a crack head who just likes to pull the trigger doing a mag dump for fun)
As always, the Simpsons covered this very topic quite well!
https://youtu.be/A-seQEwN3BM
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Quaint cartoon anology aside , yeah thanks for bolster the point hun, crims will have guns too. Legal rights and all for us . USA,,, love it or leave it diba ?
Beans can definitely be a weapon. Yet some get offended easily.. Those people need to grow up.
Bean lives matter. BLM riiight ??! What is wrong with that ?
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I don't think my gun is an extension of my male anatomy as I would never unzip during a home invasion!
Anyway, here's my contribution to the YouTube film festival -
https://youtube.com/shorts/yFfuOkYc8dk?feature=share
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LMAO ^
and yeah, nor would any 'g-ma' be saying that if they were legit.
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Bean lives matter. BLM riiight ??! What is wrong with that ?
On Juneteenth?
How high can you count?
rights and all for us .
Right.
Perhaps even respect?
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(06-18-2023, 04:58 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: Bean lives matter. BLM riiight ??! What is wrong with that ?
On Juneteenth?
How high can you count?
rights and all for us .
Right.
Perhaps even respect?
If he takes off his shoes, he could get to twenty!
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(06-18-2023, 04:45 AM)HiloJulie Wrote: Buying a gun for home protection is a HELL OF A LOT more involved than just buying a gun...
No kidding. In order to do such a think you have to lower your humanity to such a level as you might as well go feral.. wallow in the mud.
I wouldn't pursue that line of reasoning because I would not want to live my life knowing I killed someone. As such I decided eons ago that whatever protection I might be afforded by the possession of a gun is far outweighed by the potential loss of my own sanity. I just don't want to wrestle with the guilt. And, besides, there are always beans.
I look forward to the day the Second Amendment is interpreted rationally. There is of course no way to interpret "well regulated" to mean a free for all and Kyle Rittenhouse on every corner. That's just silly Republican/NRA gobbledygook, and everyone knows it. Just as they know that moron lost the election, but smugly insist otherwise.. and as long as we put up with them people will die by guns unnecessarily.
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I could easily lower my humanity to kill someone IF THEY ARE BENT ON KILLING ME.
As for every thing else you said, I agree 1000000000%
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As long as the gun issue stays a RED VS BLUE FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT issue, expect zero compromise.
This two party system here really makes everybody look and sound dumber than they are. You pick a side and then you get forced into an intractable corner where it's your way or the highway and you miss miles of nuance. It ends up being a very juvenile spy vs spy episode which would be funny except this system is being used to run a country! A 2 party system is not the foundation to shape a country or a culture upon, it's a recipe for a civil war.
