02-24-2013, 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by dwedeking
How the hell do you logically debate someone who's only concern is how to make sure the government pays them more (with a disregard of what you are doing to the people that have to give up that labor to pay for it)?
I remember when you worked at a pizza joint, mowed lawns, got a job at McD's as a 13 - 16 year old to get job experience without a government subsidy.
Most Social Security payments are not a government subsidy. I'm self employed and pay in each quarter for both the employER share and well as the employEE share of my social security. When I retire I won't be looking at that monthly check as a govenment handout. Not with what I've paid in over the years. That's the starting point to logically debate with most taxpayers.
To work at a pizza joint or McD's you have to be at least 16 years old. Not sure how far back you'd have to go to where they would hire a 13 year old, but I'm sure it's before pizza restaurants and McDonald's even existed in this country. I can't remember the last time I saw a 13 year old mow a lawn. These things don't exist, so it's not even possible for kids to get their work experience that way. Now, there are older teenagers working at fast food restaurants, but I assume KYBC will teach their employees more than how to push the button on the french fryer. Which automatically comes up after a preprogrammed length of time.
“We do this thing not because it is easy, but because we thought it would be easy.”