01-27-2014, 12:49 PM
navarland, thanks! I have not really followed that case, but it is good that this is a country where you are free to express your doubts.
damien, I hear you.
What interaction I have had with police here indicates to me that following their procedure and internal policy is their over-riding concern. They are not going to deviate from that unless someone orders them/gives them permission to break protocol. I understand why the force has to work that way, much like the military.
I also believe the people and community have a right to press for information.
I think it is important to remember that prosecution for criminal offenses is not done in the names of the victims, much as everyone wants justice for them. Prosecution is always on behalf of the People, in the interest of preserving and enforcing the laws of Society.
This is why I canÔt be swayed by arguments that it is not our business. We are the People, and it is our concern.
When a murder trial is held, there is no holding back to spare the feelings of the family of the victim or of the accused. That is not how it works. Painful process? YES. Working towards truth and a just disposition can involve some very painful scrutiny of what people might wish to be private.
If this case had come to trial, the police would have to present convincing evidence that they were correct and did not overlook another possible explanation. The judge would never instruct a jury to simply believe the police without question.
So it is disturbing to me to hear fellow citizens tell me not to question the policeÔs interpretation of the events, particularly when there is no eye witness to either death (that has been found). The confession is only on paper not spoken to anyone, and no one saw it written. A key witness has disappeared. Um, no, I would have to disengage my thinking apparatus to go on what they have made public.
Boaz Johnson will never be tried now. That means he will never get an official defense and has been declared guilty by the police. Then ProsecutorÔs Office will review and agree with the conclusion, most likely. However, I donÔt think Bo can or should be judged to be guilty in public opinion as things stand now.
I understand why the RoyalÔs want to accept this view of events as correct and move on, totally get it. But the community is divided. The Justice system is for all the People, not only the people closest to the crime.
I imagine it shows that I am bothered by the accusations of heartlessness and insensitivity that have been said here. I am a feeling person and I take such things to heart.
I believe it would be very wrong and insensitive of me to go to a private memorial or home and to force my concerns on grieving family. I do not believe I should be shamed by other Punawebbers for expressing questions and concerns in a community forum. That is where IÔm coming from and nuff said on that, and back to the topic of searching for the truth.
damien, I hear you.
What interaction I have had with police here indicates to me that following their procedure and internal policy is their over-riding concern. They are not going to deviate from that unless someone orders them/gives them permission to break protocol. I understand why the force has to work that way, much like the military.
I also believe the people and community have a right to press for information.
I think it is important to remember that prosecution for criminal offenses is not done in the names of the victims, much as everyone wants justice for them. Prosecution is always on behalf of the People, in the interest of preserving and enforcing the laws of Society.
This is why I canÔt be swayed by arguments that it is not our business. We are the People, and it is our concern.
When a murder trial is held, there is no holding back to spare the feelings of the family of the victim or of the accused. That is not how it works. Painful process? YES. Working towards truth and a just disposition can involve some very painful scrutiny of what people might wish to be private.
If this case had come to trial, the police would have to present convincing evidence that they were correct and did not overlook another possible explanation. The judge would never instruct a jury to simply believe the police without question.
So it is disturbing to me to hear fellow citizens tell me not to question the policeÔs interpretation of the events, particularly when there is no eye witness to either death (that has been found). The confession is only on paper not spoken to anyone, and no one saw it written. A key witness has disappeared. Um, no, I would have to disengage my thinking apparatus to go on what they have made public.
Boaz Johnson will never be tried now. That means he will never get an official defense and has been declared guilty by the police. Then ProsecutorÔs Office will review and agree with the conclusion, most likely. However, I donÔt think Bo can or should be judged to be guilty in public opinion as things stand now.
I understand why the RoyalÔs want to accept this view of events as correct and move on, totally get it. But the community is divided. The Justice system is for all the People, not only the people closest to the crime.
I imagine it shows that I am bothered by the accusations of heartlessness and insensitivity that have been said here. I am a feeling person and I take such things to heart.
I believe it would be very wrong and insensitive of me to go to a private memorial or home and to force my concerns on grieving family. I do not believe I should be shamed by other Punawebbers for expressing questions and concerns in a community forum. That is where IÔm coming from and nuff said on that, and back to the topic of searching for the truth.