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No more welfare checks
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Originally posted by PunaMauka2

howzit VancouverIslander, hope the summer is treating you well up in Canada.

well, the whole premise of this thread is a colossally absurd straw man argument now, isn't it. Rene who started this thread kicked it off with posting "So if the State of Hawaii is given back to the Kingdom of Hawaii, do all the welfare checks get cut off?". this being reiterated by quite a few other comments along the same fanciful sovereignty scenario.

i don't know where you are getting the "rush to dump on any level of sovereignty in the assumption that any form of sovereignty means complete nation state sovereignty" thing from. if you feel the desire to hypothesize concretely about some more realistic form with a legal precedent in terms of welfare benefits, then why don't you?

We've had incredible weather for almost 2 months now. The temperature of Mountain View with the general weather of Kona.

Where I was going with the 'rush to dump on any level of sovereignty' statement is that it seems that many in this thread and others are spending a lot of time bashing sovereignty and I think this is due to an assumption on their part that it means separate nation state rather than something like the Navajo nation or other similar first nation in the continental US. These latter forms of sovereignty I think are some of the models I see as likely compromises in the end.

Just call me Mike
Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike
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No more welfare checks - by Rene - 06-11-2015, 02:20 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by EightFingers - 06-11-2015, 02:48 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-11-2015, 03:05 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-11-2015, 03:42 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-11-2015, 04:14 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by alaskyn66 - 06-11-2015, 05:28 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Obie - 06-12-2015, 01:33 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by David M - 06-12-2015, 02:54 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-12-2015, 03:25 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by rainyjim - 06-12-2015, 09:02 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by pahoated - 06-12-2015, 12:28 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by MattKarma - 06-12-2015, 12:34 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by terracore - 06-12-2015, 01:00 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by leilanidude - 06-12-2015, 01:58 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by opihikao - 06-12-2015, 01:58 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by leilanidude - 06-12-2015, 02:47 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-12-2015, 03:31 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by leilanidude - 06-12-2015, 03:50 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by opihikao - 06-12-2015, 04:03 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by leilanidude - 06-12-2015, 04:10 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by opihikao - 06-12-2015, 04:10 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by opihikao - 06-12-2015, 04:16 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by SBH - 06-13-2015, 05:00 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by MattKarma - 06-13-2015, 05:56 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Rene Siracusa - 06-13-2015, 08:11 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-13-2015, 08:31 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Chunkster - 06-13-2015, 08:41 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-13-2015, 09:01 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by ericlp - 06-13-2015, 09:07 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-13-2015, 09:13 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by leilanidude - 06-13-2015, 11:43 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by alaskyn66 - 06-13-2015, 12:09 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by alaskyn66 - 06-13-2015, 12:54 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-13-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Kaimana - 06-13-2015, 03:06 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by EightFingers - 06-13-2015, 05:01 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by faroutsider - 06-13-2015, 05:08 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-13-2015, 05:20 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Chunkster - 06-13-2015, 06:14 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by leilanidude - 06-14-2015, 02:43 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Bullwinkle - 06-14-2015, 02:52 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-14-2015, 06:31 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Kapohocat - 06-14-2015, 06:45 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by mikewj - 06-14-2015, 06:59 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Hapahaole - 06-15-2015, 09:38 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by beepbeep - 06-15-2015, 01:12 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-15-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Bullwinkle - 06-16-2015, 06:40 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-16-2015, 07:18 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Bullwinkle - 06-16-2015, 07:35 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-16-2015, 07:55 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Anxious Messiah - 06-16-2015, 08:57 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by mikewj - 06-16-2015, 10:15 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Lee M-S - 06-16-2015, 11:28 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-16-2015, 12:41 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Chunkster - 06-16-2015, 02:03 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by EightFingers - 06-16-2015, 02:04 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-16-2015, 04:52 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-16-2015, 05:11 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by rainyjim - 06-16-2015, 06:10 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by TomK - 06-16-2015, 06:30 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by JG-HPP - 06-17-2015, 01:06 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Guest - 06-17-2015, 01:07 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by SuperGu - 06-17-2015, 02:08 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-17-2015, 02:36 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-17-2015, 03:55 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-17-2015, 03:58 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-17-2015, 05:05 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by rainyjim - 06-17-2015, 05:31 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by rainyjim - 06-17-2015, 05:33 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-17-2015, 05:37 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-17-2015, 06:01 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by bystander - 06-17-2015, 07:23 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-17-2015, 08:41 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Guest - 06-17-2015, 01:33 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Justin - 06-17-2015, 02:44 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by opihikao - 06-17-2015, 04:11 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-17-2015, 05:33 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by kalakoa - 06-18-2015, 03:34 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by VancouverIslander - 06-18-2015, 05:21 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-18-2015, 06:14 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-18-2015, 06:44 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by VancouverIslander - 06-18-2015, 08:05 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-18-2015, 10:00 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Guest - 06-19-2015, 12:29 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by kalakoa - 06-19-2015, 03:33 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by punaticbychoice - 06-19-2015, 05:56 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by beepbeep - 06-25-2015, 02:04 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Newgirl - 06-25-2015, 09:46 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by beepbeep - 06-26-2015, 02:51 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by faroutsider - 06-26-2015, 08:23 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by beepbeep - 06-26-2015, 09:54 AM
RE: No more welfare checks - by PunaMauka2 - 06-26-2015, 03:37 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by Guest - 07-05-2015, 03:07 PM
RE: No more welfare checks - by leilanidude - 07-06-2015, 03:42 AM

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