02-17-2016, 07:53 AM
This is our only forum to communicate the good, the bad and the ugly regarding this thread's name. This is a large subdivision and communication's always been a big issue. Esp if there's no effort by the board and mgmt to improve this. ie. no banners to remind members of the upcoming membership mtgs as once was done. No Conch for over a year....non transparency on a lot of business.
Here's the GOOD....A new civil defense siren is going up on county land, makai side, near intersection of C & L Rd. Before, the nearest one was up on 4th or 5th off Kaloli which couldn't be heard by Kaloli Pt residents. Hopefully this will service the Ala Heiau neighborhood. Thank you Darryl Oliveira for listening to our needs.
The playground's installation w/fencing etc is happening. Judy Houle from the Playground Committee was able w/her connections to get a good deal on the equipment and the shipping costs. Kudos to Judy and the rest of the committee. Take a look when you have time. For those that don't know, Judy is a tireless, no drama volunteer who is very involved w/the HPP NW, the Alibizia and Fire Ant Committee, Playground Committee...I might be missing another committee?? She has contributed so much to HPP, always w/a smile on her face and we all really appreciate her.
The new admin clerk was terminated almost a month ago after being on the job a little over 2 wks or so. I heard members thought she was doing a great job, aiming to please w/good cheer. She was well qualified for the position. She put flowers and chocolates on the counter to greet members with. How could someone like that get terminated so quickly? There has been no advertising to fill that position yet. Why not?
Is the HRC member still filling in as a paid temp, hired during the delinquent road maint fee girl's absence? Isn't that a conflict of interest to be on the HRC, screening and interviewing applicants, writing job descripts, negotiating salary and then hired, even as a temp? The full board isn't in the loop w/all this terminating and hiring as they should be. Dejavu. That's our checks and balances.
The arbitration is in motion. The board didn't respond to meeting w/the applicants, so the arbitration has been filed. If you want to know more, go to the General Membership Mtg on 28 Feb 2016 @ 3 PM. It is going to cost the association money so if you want add'l info, attend the mtg. A request was made last week for the board Secretary to add it to our membership mtg agenda.
The Bylaw Committee has their minutes posted on the HPP website up to Oct 2015. There was some cancelled mtgs and Dec vacation break which is why there's a gap. Further minutes will be posted as they're approved. BLC will be giving a report on where they are currently with the amendment proposals and a sample of the format that will be used when presented to the membership. There are suggestion forms in the ofc for members to fill out for the BLC. They can be turned back into the ofc or brought in person to one of their mtgs. Forms should be available for members at the General Membership mtg. BLC mtgs are on the 2nd and 4th Thur of the month, 5-7 PM.
Chip Seal will be on the membership mtg agenda as well to follow up on the membership vote that took place at the last membership mtg. A request was made last week for the board Secretary to include this on the membership mtg agenda under Old Biz.
The board consulted w/an atty and the acts of the membership has been overturned by the board. The board should provide a copy of the atty response letter to the membership since they are basing their decision to overturn the membership on that. We have a right to see the details. Did the attorney know the board hasn't provided any chip seal info to the membership?
There has been numerous opportunities to inform us. ie the newsletter that came w/our road maintenance billings would have been an excellent way to do that. The GM reported at the last board mtg that they're starting chip seal in Feb 2016. A member asked for simple details but the board refused to answer the questions.
All their chip seal discussions continue to be illegal in exec session since there are no provisions in our bylaws for normal business to be conducted other than in open board mtgs.
Article VIII -Board of Directors Sec 9, (d) Executive Session 1. b "An executive session shall be for the purpose of discussing personnel issues, matters of litigation, or matters of attorney/client privilege."
The board is way off course here and seems more and more biz is done there than at board mtgs. They have exec sessions after every board mtg. Exec sessions should only be called when necessary to discuss only those things in our bylaws. Why all the secrecy if there's nothing to hide from the members?
There are 2 large pieces of equipment in the warehouse yard for chip sealing. Are we renting them, and from whom? How much is this costing the association? Or did we purchase them since talk at one time was getting the association on a 5-10 year chip seal plan per the Fugitive Dust Committee that the VP was on? Members were never asked if we wanted to switch from the asphalt plan to chip seal. Why not? If it's for our best interest, than why are we being shut out from that decision?
I was told by some members that several years ago an engineer was consulted to see whether HPP could be a candidate for chip seal. He said no. That is why chip seal didn't proceed the last time it was brought up or since, until now. And why trying to improve our dirt roads was another option until asphalt was laid. We CAN have better dirt roads. Better quality material and professionals involved in grading and compacting it properly. Has anyone noticed red cinder roads create very little dust compared to the material on most of our roads?
Is an engineer involved to try and ensure the project is a successful one for all the various topographies of our roads which impose various issues? ie. flooding. There are more questions than answers.
Have all the proper permits been pulled for this work since chip seal goes outside the parameters of road "maintenance"? The board keeps calling it "maintenance". They are laying emulsion down which is similar to laying asphalt down. Our road crew is inexperienced, red flag. They will require lots of training and will be pulled away from their real road maintenance duties.
It should be the the members' decision since we all have paying for asphalt since the bond was taken out. A 9 member volunteer board w/little biz or road experience shouldn't be excluding over 8,500 lot owners who are/have been paying for asphalt all these years.
Are the board and mgmt going to shoulder all the responsibility if the chip seal fails? They should since they have totally excluded the membership in every aspect of it.
Why won't the board and mgmt take care of real road maintenance issues? We are way overdue for restriping and reapplying reflectors on all our main drags and feeder roads. That's a no brainer safety issue if one can't see the center line during night time driving. Add rain to that...
The albizias on HPP easements are a great concern after witnessing what happened during Tropical Storm Iselle. No strides have been made forward on this. There's a whole squad of young albizias popping up along Kaloli that one day will look like Makuu. Baby steps in ridding the albizias is proactive.
(Edited to improve sentence flow)
Here's the GOOD....A new civil defense siren is going up on county land, makai side, near intersection of C & L Rd. Before, the nearest one was up on 4th or 5th off Kaloli which couldn't be heard by Kaloli Pt residents. Hopefully this will service the Ala Heiau neighborhood. Thank you Darryl Oliveira for listening to our needs.
The playground's installation w/fencing etc is happening. Judy Houle from the Playground Committee was able w/her connections to get a good deal on the equipment and the shipping costs. Kudos to Judy and the rest of the committee. Take a look when you have time. For those that don't know, Judy is a tireless, no drama volunteer who is very involved w/the HPP NW, the Alibizia and Fire Ant Committee, Playground Committee...I might be missing another committee?? She has contributed so much to HPP, always w/a smile on her face and we all really appreciate her.
The new admin clerk was terminated almost a month ago after being on the job a little over 2 wks or so. I heard members thought she was doing a great job, aiming to please w/good cheer. She was well qualified for the position. She put flowers and chocolates on the counter to greet members with. How could someone like that get terminated so quickly? There has been no advertising to fill that position yet. Why not?
Is the HRC member still filling in as a paid temp, hired during the delinquent road maint fee girl's absence? Isn't that a conflict of interest to be on the HRC, screening and interviewing applicants, writing job descripts, negotiating salary and then hired, even as a temp? The full board isn't in the loop w/all this terminating and hiring as they should be. Dejavu. That's our checks and balances.
The arbitration is in motion. The board didn't respond to meeting w/the applicants, so the arbitration has been filed. If you want to know more, go to the General Membership Mtg on 28 Feb 2016 @ 3 PM. It is going to cost the association money so if you want add'l info, attend the mtg. A request was made last week for the board Secretary to add it to our membership mtg agenda.
The Bylaw Committee has their minutes posted on the HPP website up to Oct 2015. There was some cancelled mtgs and Dec vacation break which is why there's a gap. Further minutes will be posted as they're approved. BLC will be giving a report on where they are currently with the amendment proposals and a sample of the format that will be used when presented to the membership. There are suggestion forms in the ofc for members to fill out for the BLC. They can be turned back into the ofc or brought in person to one of their mtgs. Forms should be available for members at the General Membership mtg. BLC mtgs are on the 2nd and 4th Thur of the month, 5-7 PM.
Chip Seal will be on the membership mtg agenda as well to follow up on the membership vote that took place at the last membership mtg. A request was made last week for the board Secretary to include this on the membership mtg agenda under Old Biz.
The board consulted w/an atty and the acts of the membership has been overturned by the board. The board should provide a copy of the atty response letter to the membership since they are basing their decision to overturn the membership on that. We have a right to see the details. Did the attorney know the board hasn't provided any chip seal info to the membership?
There has been numerous opportunities to inform us. ie the newsletter that came w/our road maintenance billings would have been an excellent way to do that. The GM reported at the last board mtg that they're starting chip seal in Feb 2016. A member asked for simple details but the board refused to answer the questions.
All their chip seal discussions continue to be illegal in exec session since there are no provisions in our bylaws for normal business to be conducted other than in open board mtgs.
Article VIII -Board of Directors Sec 9, (d) Executive Session 1. b "An executive session shall be for the purpose of discussing personnel issues, matters of litigation, or matters of attorney/client privilege."
The board is way off course here and seems more and more biz is done there than at board mtgs. They have exec sessions after every board mtg. Exec sessions should only be called when necessary to discuss only those things in our bylaws. Why all the secrecy if there's nothing to hide from the members?
There are 2 large pieces of equipment in the warehouse yard for chip sealing. Are we renting them, and from whom? How much is this costing the association? Or did we purchase them since talk at one time was getting the association on a 5-10 year chip seal plan per the Fugitive Dust Committee that the VP was on? Members were never asked if we wanted to switch from the asphalt plan to chip seal. Why not? If it's for our best interest, than why are we being shut out from that decision?
I was told by some members that several years ago an engineer was consulted to see whether HPP could be a candidate for chip seal. He said no. That is why chip seal didn't proceed the last time it was brought up or since, until now. And why trying to improve our dirt roads was another option until asphalt was laid. We CAN have better dirt roads. Better quality material and professionals involved in grading and compacting it properly. Has anyone noticed red cinder roads create very little dust compared to the material on most of our roads?
Is an engineer involved to try and ensure the project is a successful one for all the various topographies of our roads which impose various issues? ie. flooding. There are more questions than answers.
Have all the proper permits been pulled for this work since chip seal goes outside the parameters of road "maintenance"? The board keeps calling it "maintenance". They are laying emulsion down which is similar to laying asphalt down. Our road crew is inexperienced, red flag. They will require lots of training and will be pulled away from their real road maintenance duties.
It should be the the members' decision since we all have paying for asphalt since the bond was taken out. A 9 member volunteer board w/little biz or road experience shouldn't be excluding over 8,500 lot owners who are/have been paying for asphalt all these years.
Are the board and mgmt going to shoulder all the responsibility if the chip seal fails? They should since they have totally excluded the membership in every aspect of it.
Why won't the board and mgmt take care of real road maintenance issues? We are way overdue for restriping and reapplying reflectors on all our main drags and feeder roads. That's a no brainer safety issue if one can't see the center line during night time driving. Add rain to that...
The albizias on HPP easements are a great concern after witnessing what happened during Tropical Storm Iselle. No strides have been made forward on this. There's a whole squad of young albizias popping up along Kaloli that one day will look like Makuu. Baby steps in ridding the albizias is proactive.
(Edited to improve sentence flow)