03-04-2017, 09:15 AM
galileo,
Thank you for your reply.
ohiagrrl,
You didn't answer the questions I put forward, except by conjecture and generalizations:
How did ancient Hawaiians reach the summit of Mauna Kea?
Horse? Have you ever ridden horseback on rocks and boulders? Or if they did ride on a trail, who made the trail and where is it? No ancient trails have been discovered, although it's not entirely impossible they've been concealed by erosion and quakes over the years.
Kealoha Piscatta a former Telescope employee trying to reclaim her families shrine
That's not true. She built her own personal shrine and created a narrative around it to fit her anti-TMT arguments. She's better known for scattering butts of her smoked down Parliaments around the summit for "the help" (astronomers) to pick up.
The rest of your reply is generic cultural and/or indigenous related commentary, not concerning Mauna Kea. I am looking for direct answers, specific to Mauna Kea:
How did ancient Hawaiians reach the summit of Mauna Kea?
(We know they walked as far as the adze quarry mostly between 11,000 and 12,400 feet, and constructed shrines there, in the summer months. Also, upright stone markers, or shrines have been found near Lake Waiau. Did this identify the endpoint for large numbers of pilgrims, or was it evidence that a person or group reached a remote and difficult destination?)
How many practiced their religion there? (10? 10,000?)
How often did the average Hawaiian make the journey? (In other words, was this a common occurrence among the Hawaiian people, or a rarity?)
You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.
Thank you for your reply.
ohiagrrl,
You didn't answer the questions I put forward, except by conjecture and generalizations:
How did ancient Hawaiians reach the summit of Mauna Kea?
Horse? Have you ever ridden horseback on rocks and boulders? Or if they did ride on a trail, who made the trail and where is it? No ancient trails have been discovered, although it's not entirely impossible they've been concealed by erosion and quakes over the years.
Kealoha Piscatta a former Telescope employee trying to reclaim her families shrine
That's not true. She built her own personal shrine and created a narrative around it to fit her anti-TMT arguments. She's better known for scattering butts of her smoked down Parliaments around the summit for "the help" (astronomers) to pick up.
The rest of your reply is generic cultural and/or indigenous related commentary, not concerning Mauna Kea. I am looking for direct answers, specific to Mauna Kea:
How did ancient Hawaiians reach the summit of Mauna Kea?
(We know they walked as far as the adze quarry mostly between 11,000 and 12,400 feet, and constructed shrines there, in the summer months. Also, upright stone markers, or shrines have been found near Lake Waiau. Did this identify the endpoint for large numbers of pilgrims, or was it evidence that a person or group reached a remote and difficult destination?)
How many practiced their religion there? (10? 10,000?)
How often did the average Hawaiian make the journey? (In other words, was this a common occurrence among the Hawaiian people, or a rarity?)
You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.
“We do this thing not because it is easy, but because we thought it would be easy.”