09-15-2017, 12:38 PM
From Eric1600: MarkD, I think you just enjoy typing. TMT? Huh? Noise is just an opinion? What?
Let me unpackage this for you. It is not that complicated. Here is one of PaulW's statements: I just can't stand by while lies are spread around. As in whether helicopter noise is excessive, either by its volume or frequency.
A statement that it is excessive is an opinion. Just like someone bothered by a barking dog, where a neighbor might not be bothered by the dog. One person is bothered. Another is not.
Opinions. Not facts. Hence no lies are involved. Just like the statement that TMT construction would result in Mauna Kea being overbuilt. That is an opinion, not a lie. The general debate here is not about specific violations, but the broad opinion that there are far to many helicopters flights and that they are too noisy across the board.
You are electing to be dense, and I am being charitable by using the word electing.
Let me unpackage this for you. It is not that complicated. Here is one of PaulW's statements: I just can't stand by while lies are spread around. As in whether helicopter noise is excessive, either by its volume or frequency.
A statement that it is excessive is an opinion. Just like someone bothered by a barking dog, where a neighbor might not be bothered by the dog. One person is bothered. Another is not.
Opinions. Not facts. Hence no lies are involved. Just like the statement that TMT construction would result in Mauna Kea being overbuilt. That is an opinion, not a lie. The general debate here is not about specific violations, but the broad opinion that there are far to many helicopters flights and that they are too noisy across the board.
You are electing to be dense, and I am being charitable by using the word electing.