02-10-2018, 04:31 PM
9 Feb 2018 Special Board mtg...
R Mizuba sd the USPS authorized 8,753 boxes for $600,000. She will give a more thorough report at the next board mtg. Ruth sd L Laucik has been a major obstruction to their moving forward on community projects. D Roe asked "isn't it true that had we moved forward with your proposal (1 yr ago), that we would've been out of a significant amount of more $$$? That "today" we have a better deal? R Mizuba sd that was a yr ago.
P Murdoch sd it wasn't the community's decision. The only decision was to take it to the membership. The membership decided, and it turns out we're correct. Bc we kept at it, the postal svc finally decided this. R Mizuba sd she thought last yr's proposal was still a good deal and it was shot down by the membership.
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Last yr Dist 6 rep P Murdoch sd the USPS told HPP we had to buy over 8,000 boxes or there was no deal...ALL or NOTHING. Here's discussion from last yr on detailed costs and some of the details aren't going to be much different today.
Feb 6 2017 Special Board Meeting minutes Mailbox Committee discussion:
"The mailbox unites are the largest cost. Estimated at about $50,000 per site to accommodate mailbox centers with lighting included in the budget bid. Full budget bid comes in just below $600,000 for all four sites. They asked an outside contractor for a bid and it was bid at $182,000. One of the ideas was for solar lighting that stands alone at the ends of each island bank of boxes. A spreadsheet was distributed and showed how the bid broke down to $795,598 e.g. approximately $800,000 for the full project to put in the four sites. Largest cost is in the box stands themselves coming in at $600,000 with about just under $200,000 for construction."
It doesn't appear like the current mailbox situation has changed per R Mizuba's report at last night's special board meeting except that perhaps the USPS will front the $$$ and the $$$ will be reimbursed to USPS via individual mailbox purchases?
Per a reliable source: Has something changed much since just this past January 2018? The plan was for HPP to collect $$$ from the membership after the boxes were installed by the USPS. Question was what if some members don't want to pay the est. $200+? Will the association pay the difference if some don't want to pay for a box? The mailbox committee chair had no response. This was the same exact argument 1 yr ago..nothing new, and still no answer?
Add'l questions: The board has NOT approved this yet R Mizuba has moved forward like it has been. The board has had no discussion on it at any recent board meeting, and the FC hasn't heard anything about it.
Who's going to maintain the area, what kind of security will there be when you have 4,000 mailboxes in one place? How's this going to affect the neighborhood and the main drag traffic wise? Who will manage the $$$ esp if the FC is being castrated from being the checks and balances for the membership? Will the $$$ get commingled like the road maint fee $$$ did with chip seal? Usage of 20 acres question hasn't been resolved and may take some time until it is. The current zoning is the issue. And last someone checked, the Watamull's weren't interested in leasing any of their 20 acres that are zoned for community development so that option may be out. Lots of questions that need answers from R Mizuba FIRST. ASK HER and P Murdoch to give you ALL the finer details bc it seems the cart is being put before the horse AGAIN.
Like I've said many times, I want everyone to have a mailbox in HPP BUT make sure it's done right so there are NO repercussions. This will take careful planning and decisions...not done in a reckless manner that may cause potential liability and waste of lot owner $$$.
Ask Questions, get answers from R Mizuba who is running the show.
R Mizuba sd the USPS authorized 8,753 boxes for $600,000. She will give a more thorough report at the next board mtg. Ruth sd L Laucik has been a major obstruction to their moving forward on community projects. D Roe asked "isn't it true that had we moved forward with your proposal (1 yr ago), that we would've been out of a significant amount of more $$$? That "today" we have a better deal? R Mizuba sd that was a yr ago.
P Murdoch sd it wasn't the community's decision. The only decision was to take it to the membership. The membership decided, and it turns out we're correct. Bc we kept at it, the postal svc finally decided this. R Mizuba sd she thought last yr's proposal was still a good deal and it was shot down by the membership.
_________________
Last yr Dist 6 rep P Murdoch sd the USPS told HPP we had to buy over 8,000 boxes or there was no deal...ALL or NOTHING. Here's discussion from last yr on detailed costs and some of the details aren't going to be much different today.
Feb 6 2017 Special Board Meeting minutes Mailbox Committee discussion:
"The mailbox unites are the largest cost. Estimated at about $50,000 per site to accommodate mailbox centers with lighting included in the budget bid. Full budget bid comes in just below $600,000 for all four sites. They asked an outside contractor for a bid and it was bid at $182,000. One of the ideas was for solar lighting that stands alone at the ends of each island bank of boxes. A spreadsheet was distributed and showed how the bid broke down to $795,598 e.g. approximately $800,000 for the full project to put in the four sites. Largest cost is in the box stands themselves coming in at $600,000 with about just under $200,000 for construction."
It doesn't appear like the current mailbox situation has changed per R Mizuba's report at last night's special board meeting except that perhaps the USPS will front the $$$ and the $$$ will be reimbursed to USPS via individual mailbox purchases?
Per a reliable source: Has something changed much since just this past January 2018? The plan was for HPP to collect $$$ from the membership after the boxes were installed by the USPS. Question was what if some members don't want to pay the est. $200+? Will the association pay the difference if some don't want to pay for a box? The mailbox committee chair had no response. This was the same exact argument 1 yr ago..nothing new, and still no answer?
Add'l questions: The board has NOT approved this yet R Mizuba has moved forward like it has been. The board has had no discussion on it at any recent board meeting, and the FC hasn't heard anything about it.
Who's going to maintain the area, what kind of security will there be when you have 4,000 mailboxes in one place? How's this going to affect the neighborhood and the main drag traffic wise? Who will manage the $$$ esp if the FC is being castrated from being the checks and balances for the membership? Will the $$$ get commingled like the road maint fee $$$ did with chip seal? Usage of 20 acres question hasn't been resolved and may take some time until it is. The current zoning is the issue. And last someone checked, the Watamull's weren't interested in leasing any of their 20 acres that are zoned for community development so that option may be out. Lots of questions that need answers from R Mizuba FIRST. ASK HER and P Murdoch to give you ALL the finer details bc it seems the cart is being put before the horse AGAIN.
Like I've said many times, I want everyone to have a mailbox in HPP BUT make sure it's done right so there are NO repercussions. This will take careful planning and decisions...not done in a reckless manner that may cause potential liability and waste of lot owner $$$.
Ask Questions, get answers from R Mizuba who is running the show.