TMT construction begins Monday 15 July

[TomK]

One of the problems for those that support the TMT is that if they post their opinions on social media they are immediately confronted by some really nasty posts which then evolve into nasty and racist exchanges. It's been much more gentle here, but glinda's posts have shown how those against the TMT will make up stuff in order to defend their position.

I'm grateful for those that support astronomy on Mauna Kea and am also grateful that the protesters have remained non-violent and have maintained a peaceful and welcoming protest site, even if some of it is illegal. I understand their position even if I don't agree with it.

However, I will never support lies, misinformation, spinning facts into lies and misrepresenting what someone has said. If glinda could stop doing that, I think we could have a useful discussion here. If the protesters could do the same, then maybe something positive will come out of this, but we already know they can't be trusted, so regaining that trust will take some time.