(09-15-2021, 04:19 PM)Or1on Wrote: I have been reading over this thread for awhile and decided to finally comment:
You simply cannot force someone to inject something into their body that they don't want to. Or eat a pill they don't want to. Or say something they don't want to. Or worship a deity they don't want to.
I got the vaccine. It was my choice. No matter how much some of you berate those that choose not to get it, that doesn't make your point of view correct. Yes, the world we live in is different now. Some would even say its f#*#-ed. People are losing loved ones. Sadness and sorrow runs deep. Still you cannot force people to get vaccinated. Should our government go fully "big-brother" and try to make it a mandate to be vaccinated, it would get really ugly. Much worse than it is now with all the people that would rise up in resistance.
I'm not in favor of forcing vaccinations on anyone either. I agree it would end up becoming ugly if that happens. On the other hand, I am in favor of pointing out the idiocy of not getting vaccinated and the ridiculous arguments anti-vaxxers use in order to justify their attempts to mislead others about vaccinations.
(09-15-2021, 04:27 PM)kander Wrote: Now, i wont take it because the people I talk to and ask, (because from the horses mouth right?) Nurses, Doctors have seen upticks in brain bleeds, melanomas, spontaneous abortions, heart attacks, kidney failures, early signs of creutzfeld jacobs manifesting in people in their 20's, that coincide with them haven taken the vaccine in the last 6 months. These are just the people I know and not all in the same hospital. Im NOT talking about all the other people more vocal about it, and that are immediately attacked for stepping forward about saying "hey, there seems to be a problem here". These medical professionals are low key for fear of reprisals if they were to speak out. Think about that for a minute.
Frankly, I don't believe a word you're saying. Sorry if that's harsh, but I've seen too many credulous people over the years make similar claims to yours about all sorts of stuff and they never back it up, and I doubt you will either.
(09-15-2021, 07:04 PM)Justin Wrote: Making a requirement to be vaccinated in order to fly, enter a restaurant, attend a concert, etc., is not "forcing" someone to get vaccinated. It is giving them a choice - to be part of a healthy society, or to be a nomad. There is a choice there. In my own house I can walk around naked, smoke all day, and be drunk as a skunk. No one can take that freedom away from me. But I can't walk the streets naked, smoke in a restaurant, or drive drunk - those are requirements that society has agreed upon as being for the greater good.
Exactly. And very well said.