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Guns
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(10-02-2022, 01:08 AM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: our founding fathers never envisioned an administrative state being so restrictive

“well-regulated” implies administration by some authority.
For instance, the County of Hawaii.  Some form of regulation is recommended by the Second Amendment and that is what a member of the county council intends to propose.

"“well-regulated” implies administration by some authority."

The 2nd amendment was written to protect us from such authority, not to be confined by it.  The concept that there would be "government regulations" was against everything our founding fathers intended.   The definition of "well regulated" as it pertained to legal documents in the late 1700's meant something that was in working order, calibrated correctly, or functioning as expected.  It wasn't referring to "government regulations". The CFRs didn't exist before 1938.  It was referring to what worked well within the community, which at the time was generally referring to able-bodied white males between the ages of 16-59.  But that was just referring to the militia, of which the 2nd amendment isn't limited to. (plenty of case law has already established it has nothing to do with militias).

To imply that they were suggesting that the intent of the amendment should be subjected to some sort of government regulations, when none existed at the time, is just nonsense.  

When the 2nd amendment was written, we had just defeated the most powerful empire in the world with a rag-tag group of farmers known as minutemen who could grab a rifle and head to battle with little notice. After our independence, our nation didn't have a military of any kind. Jefferson wrote about how he didn't want a navy but had to deal with Muslims that led to the Barbary Wars. It's immortalized to this day in the Marine Hymn in the second line: "From the Halls of Montezuma To the Shores of Tripoli;"

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Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-01-2022, 01:55 AM
RE: Guns - by kalianna - 10-01-2022, 04:04 AM
RE: Guns - by microage97 - 10-01-2022, 04:24 PM
RE: Guns - by terracore - 10-02-2022, 12:37 AM
RE: Guns - by randomq - 10-01-2022, 05:14 PM
RE: Guns - by oink - 10-01-2022, 05:30 PM
RE: Guns - by kalakoa - 10-01-2022, 05:52 PM
RE: Guns - by 'elepaio - 10-01-2022, 09:32 PM
RE: Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-01-2022, 10:02 PM
RE: Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-02-2022, 01:08 AM
RE: Guns - by terracore - 10-02-2022, 02:37 AM
RE: Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-02-2022, 02:59 AM
RE: Guns - by terracore - 10-02-2022, 03:02 AM
RE: Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-02-2022, 04:06 AM
RE: Guns - by terracore - 10-04-2022, 03:27 AM
RE: Guns - by MyManao - 10-05-2022, 06:51 PM
RE: Guns - by oink - 10-02-2022, 04:50 AM
RE: Guns - by AaronM - 10-02-2022, 05:07 AM
RE: Guns - by MyManao - 10-02-2022, 08:57 PM
RE: Guns - by eightfingers2.0 - 10-02-2022, 05:08 AM
RE: Guns - by randomq - 10-02-2022, 08:22 AM
RE: Guns - by kalianna - 10-02-2022, 09:20 PM
RE: Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-02-2022, 09:57 PM
RE: Guns - by Durian Fiend - 10-03-2022, 02:17 AM
RE: Guns - by randomq - 10-03-2022, 07:13 AM
RE: Guns - by 'elepaio - 10-03-2022, 09:15 AM
RE: Guns - by TomK - 10-03-2022, 09:51 AM
RE: Guns - by punikahakaiferret - 10-05-2022, 06:14 AM
RE: Guns - by TomK - 10-05-2022, 07:27 AM
RE: Guns - by 'elepaio - 10-03-2022, 01:57 PM
RE: Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-04-2022, 05:23 AM
RE: Guns - by 'elepaio - 10-04-2022, 07:45 AM
RE: Guns - by kalianna - 10-05-2022, 06:54 AM
RE: Guns - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-05-2022, 08:57 PM
RE: Guns - by birdmove - 10-06-2022, 01:52 AM
RE: Guns - by leilanidude - 10-06-2022, 12:29 PM
RE: Guns - by AaronM - 10-07-2022, 01:25 AM
RE: Guns - by randomq - 10-06-2022, 04:21 PM

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