HiloJulie - Free speech can be anything, but there are limits. You can’t scream fire in a crowded theater!
Actually, you can always shout fire in a crowded theater, there just may be consequences for doing so, depending on the context. Similarly, you can "post here and there and everywhere I desire", there just may be consequences for doing so. Freedom of action doesn't mean freedom from consequence.
HiloJulie - And the real problem to me is not that MyMano is a washed up drunken misogynist pig, it’s the people who support his behavior, which has gone on here at PunaWeb for over a decade.
So now you're not in support of how Rob has run PunaWeb for decades? You do understand that only he can moderate someone's speech here? Has me wagging my finger made you more receptive of community feedback? Made Tom act less of a fool? Helped kalianna find joy in the absurdity of it all? Doesn't seem so to me, so once again, you're mistaken in your understanding and expectations here. As sensei HOTPE said "Sometimes if they say or do nothing, it’s not that they approve of the comment. It’s not that they think it’s true. In the world of online forums wildly crazy stuff is posted every microsecond."
Durian Fiend - Yeah, seems like some bad blood exists in this forum doesn't it?
Punaweb is interesting to me in that its membership is defined by geography, not a topic of interest, so it's been both less likely to become an echo-chamber, but also more likely to spark discussion and disagreement. While some online communities collapse under the weight of time, where arguments and feuds built up and drive away both long time contributors and more casual participants who tire of the drama, for perspective, one of the earliest threads on Punaweb from its first couple years was asking about an "ignore option" to not have to read content from certain posters. So this discordant situation isn't new or anything and ultimately some people will stay, some will go, and some new ones will arrive - wash, rinse, repeat.
"Ka turns, and the world moves on. If we're lucky, we move on with it."
P.S. - Oh, hi kalakoa! :)
Actually, you can always shout fire in a crowded theater, there just may be consequences for doing so, depending on the context. Similarly, you can "post here and there and everywhere I desire", there just may be consequences for doing so. Freedom of action doesn't mean freedom from consequence.
HiloJulie - And the real problem to me is not that MyMano is a washed up drunken misogynist pig, it’s the people who support his behavior, which has gone on here at PunaWeb for over a decade.
So now you're not in support of how Rob has run PunaWeb for decades? You do understand that only he can moderate someone's speech here? Has me wagging my finger made you more receptive of community feedback? Made Tom act less of a fool? Helped kalianna find joy in the absurdity of it all? Doesn't seem so to me, so once again, you're mistaken in your understanding and expectations here. As sensei HOTPE said "Sometimes if they say or do nothing, it’s not that they approve of the comment. It’s not that they think it’s true. In the world of online forums wildly crazy stuff is posted every microsecond."
Durian Fiend - Yeah, seems like some bad blood exists in this forum doesn't it?
Punaweb is interesting to me in that its membership is defined by geography, not a topic of interest, so it's been both less likely to become an echo-chamber, but also more likely to spark discussion and disagreement. While some online communities collapse under the weight of time, where arguments and feuds built up and drive away both long time contributors and more casual participants who tire of the drama, for perspective, one of the earliest threads on Punaweb from its first couple years was asking about an "ignore option" to not have to read content from certain posters. So this discordant situation isn't new or anything and ultimately some people will stay, some will go, and some new ones will arrive - wash, rinse, repeat.
"Ka turns, and the world moves on. If we're lucky, we move on with it."
P.S. - Oh, hi kalakoa! :)