05-11-2025, 05:38 PM
(05-11-2025, 05:31 PM)Durian Fiend Wrote:(05-11-2025, 04:31 PM)Punatang Wrote: if you deny someone their rights and deport without due processIn your partisan zeal to normalize recent deportation activity, you're overlooking what some people are worried about here.
You might be right. Please forgive my ignorance on this. Can you please enumerate or provide links to exactly what process is due to individuals who break the law and enter or remain in Hawaii illegally?
ETA: It might be what you "call whataboutism". We call it curiosity. Assuming the best and asking questions. Since you thought I should ask. In FY 2009 alone ICE made 297,898 arrests yet no one on Punaweb made a peep that I can find except for comments about poor Graham and a few who wanted Sativa deported. If you need to label my genuine curiosity because it comes from a perspective that you disagree with, there is probably also a label for your labeling. Where was the outrage on Punaweb in 2009? Did it get deleted?
Your "curiosity" was in response to a post raising the question of "collateral damage" from deportations. The number of deportations at the national level in any given year is irrelevant to the question.
As I see it, the concerns are: 1. Screw ups like the recent one with the Filipino teachers, Indiscriminate targeting of immigrants, rather than seeking those with a known criminal record, deportation without due process and incarcerating without due process.
Only the first of those would have been a legitimate concern back in 2009.
So you don't know what process is due?