06-16-2025, 02:32 PM
(06-15-2025, 04:07 PM)ironyak Wrote: TomK - someone on the protesters' side flew a Palestinian flag. I'm sure that's perfectly legal, but consider what that entails.
Yesterday at the Hilo protest I saw at least two Palestinian flags and several signs condemning the situation in Gaza. But do pray tell what more it entails other than some cloth, wind, and people in Hawaii legally expressing their concerns about mass destruction and tens-of-thousands of innocents being killed.
More directly related to this thread were the creative chant "Only shaved ice in Hawaii" and the more subversive sign slogan "No one is illegal on stolen land". Plenty to unpack there about the nature of Land and Power for those so inclined (but maybe, like me, they weren't born here and so should just keep quiet and be respectful...)
I didn't mention what you wrote. I wanted to point out why some people might be upset. We live in a country that allows free speech. I'm not aware of any other country that has the same laws as the US does. Unfortunately, that means assholes will do the same thing you see here - troll the public. I don't give one about shave ice or stolen land. The latter would have more meaning if the US and her allies just gave up in 1941, but they didn't. That was a generation of people from all the allied nations that allowed us to live the way we do now and allows you to post nonsense without consequences.
Frankly, even bringing up the subject of shave ice is so disrespectful, but it's perfectly legal.
It certainly isn't morally right.