Wao nahele kane - Punaweb remains the self-same lair it ever was: a guarded sanctum for the leftward host, wherein the ever-wounded may clash and claw amongst themselves in safety, while any conservative who stumbles through its gates is set upon with righteous fury.
While it's hard to not like an EA Poe reference, and points need to be given for effort and creativity, this seems to miss the mark on accuracy and insight. It seems that HJ is taking flak from those left of center like MM and kalianna, along with those right of center like Tang, TomK, Wahine/Kane, leilanidude, & Obie so it's more like personal differences/grudges than political tribalism. Still, the post overall is much better than your usual kekistan edgelord contributions, so I'd give it a "Litbro Libtard" score of 3/5, off the mark but entertaining.
If those of a certain political persuasion feel put upon, maybe they could bother to check if what they are posting has any evidentiary basis in reality instead of just going with whatever vibe-based talking points support their feelings? Almost all of human knowledge is at your fingertips, why not make use of it? It would really save us all a lot of time having to debunk/dunk.
MM - Ever the same? I beg to differ. It used to be wholly different.
I don't know, Punaweb has always had a fractious side from my experience starting a few years after yours (there's a reason you're a few monikers deep at this point ;), but clearly y'all did more in direct aid and face-to-face interactions back in the day. Politics was easier to put aside before 2016ish when license was given to say the more racist, homophobic, & misogynous quiet parts out loud and the harms of those beliefs became government goals.
For Punaweb, I actually put the major vibe shift pivot point at the TMT discussions (compared to say this related discussion a few years earlier when Kane could do paragraphs and nuance! ;) where the fact that some Native Hawaiians might actually have any input, much less an ultimately successful objection, to the project seemed to break a lot of Punawebber's brains. The start of the COVID pandemic didn't improve any of this slide towards reactionary politics and the mask-off exposing of the lack of empathy or humanity from many that continues to this day has become hard, if not impossible, to overlook.
Not sure where things will, or even can, go from here when "ultra-leftist's: It would be good if people have access to food, housing, healthcare, and education" vs "the-right's: Get cucked, libtard" is often the extent of "discussion" possible.
Personally, I'm fine with how Rob runs things whether he wants to be hands-on or laissez-faire. It's his sandbox and when in Rome / Sparta do as the Romans / Spartans do. (Salve! let's check those ideas against this amazing library of knowledge we have / This... is... Punaweb! ;)
While it's hard to not like an EA Poe reference, and points need to be given for effort and creativity, this seems to miss the mark on accuracy and insight. It seems that HJ is taking flak from those left of center like MM and kalianna, along with those right of center like Tang, TomK, Wahine/Kane, leilanidude, & Obie so it's more like personal differences/grudges than political tribalism. Still, the post overall is much better than your usual kekistan edgelord contributions, so I'd give it a "Litbro Libtard" score of 3/5, off the mark but entertaining.
If those of a certain political persuasion feel put upon, maybe they could bother to check if what they are posting has any evidentiary basis in reality instead of just going with whatever vibe-based talking points support their feelings? Almost all of human knowledge is at your fingertips, why not make use of it? It would really save us all a lot of time having to debunk/dunk.
MM - Ever the same? I beg to differ. It used to be wholly different.
I don't know, Punaweb has always had a fractious side from my experience starting a few years after yours (there's a reason you're a few monikers deep at this point ;), but clearly y'all did more in direct aid and face-to-face interactions back in the day. Politics was easier to put aside before 2016ish when license was given to say the more racist, homophobic, & misogynous quiet parts out loud and the harms of those beliefs became government goals.
For Punaweb, I actually put the major vibe shift pivot point at the TMT discussions (compared to say this related discussion a few years earlier when Kane could do paragraphs and nuance! ;) where the fact that some Native Hawaiians might actually have any input, much less an ultimately successful objection, to the project seemed to break a lot of Punawebber's brains. The start of the COVID pandemic didn't improve any of this slide towards reactionary politics and the mask-off exposing of the lack of empathy or humanity from many that continues to this day has become hard, if not impossible, to overlook.
Not sure where things will, or even can, go from here when "ultra-leftist's: It would be good if people have access to food, housing, healthcare, and education" vs "the-right's: Get cucked, libtard" is often the extent of "discussion" possible.
Personally, I'm fine with how Rob runs things whether he wants to be hands-on or laissez-faire. It's his sandbox and when in Rome / Sparta do as the Romans / Spartans do. (Salve! let's check those ideas against this amazing library of knowledge we have / This... is... Punaweb! ;)