Trying to extract some value from the wreckage of the Bicker Board, these unanswered questions were quite timely:
HereOnThePrimalEdge - How is it that normally reasonable people who perfectly well understand the concept above, have been brainwashed into a one size fits all mentality equating a coffee picker in Kona, with a human trafficker on Oahu?
And if your argument is “they shouldn’t be here” then why does ICE target immigrants who are going through all the legal channels to gain citizenship (it’s a thing!) and grab them while they have appointments, hearings, etc for legal paperwork, legal extension requests?
Summary of story below: Hawai'i immigrant taken into custody at a routine green card appointment, spent 5 months in jail, no charges ever filed, only just released. Any right-or-alt-right-of center folks want to actually try to address this situation as being morally or legally defensible?
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/202...ice-arrest
"A 42-year-old Captain Cook man who was locked up more than five months by the federal government without charges or bond was freed late last month, the American Civil Liberties Union of Hawaii said Tuesday.
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Estrada Lopez, who has no criminal history — immigration violations are civil law, Stacy said — was taken into federal custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement during an application interview for a green card in August.
Stacy on Jan. 14 told the Tribune-Herald that Estrada Lopez was “ripped away” from his wife while she was being interviewed. He was taken to the Federal Detention Center in Honolulu, where he remained incarcerated without charges or bond until his release on Jan. 27.
Lopez’s wife, Emily Estrada, said in a statement last month that her husband’s “unexpected detention at our green card interview has turned our lives completely upside down.”
“What we thought was just a routine step in our immigration process has become the most difficult five months of our lives,” she said. “Juan defines himself by his ability to provide, and losing that has been devastating." (more at link)
HereOnThePrimalEdge - How is it that normally reasonable people who perfectly well understand the concept above, have been brainwashed into a one size fits all mentality equating a coffee picker in Kona, with a human trafficker on Oahu?
And if your argument is “they shouldn’t be here” then why does ICE target immigrants who are going through all the legal channels to gain citizenship (it’s a thing!) and grab them while they have appointments, hearings, etc for legal paperwork, legal extension requests?
Summary of story below: Hawai'i immigrant taken into custody at a routine green card appointment, spent 5 months in jail, no charges ever filed, only just released. Any right-or-alt-right-of center folks want to actually try to address this situation as being morally or legally defensible?
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/202...ice-arrest
"A 42-year-old Captain Cook man who was locked up more than five months by the federal government without charges or bond was freed late last month, the American Civil Liberties Union of Hawaii said Tuesday.
...
Estrada Lopez, who has no criminal history — immigration violations are civil law, Stacy said — was taken into federal custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement during an application interview for a green card in August.
Stacy on Jan. 14 told the Tribune-Herald that Estrada Lopez was “ripped away” from his wife while she was being interviewed. He was taken to the Federal Detention Center in Honolulu, where he remained incarcerated without charges or bond until his release on Jan. 27.
Lopez’s wife, Emily Estrada, said in a statement last month that her husband’s “unexpected detention at our green card interview has turned our lives completely upside down.”
“What we thought was just a routine step in our immigration process has become the most difficult five months of our lives,” she said. “Juan defines himself by his ability to provide, and losing that has been devastating." (more at link)