Hey ChunksterK - I'd note that this thread is actually an attempt to prevent the same conversation overwhelming the storm impact and recovery thread and at least focus the debate on the factors involved with choosing an internet provider in Puna. I would also note that I think most of the points raised are beyond just "political overtones" - we're not discussing the proper percentage for a Mill tax to support the local library, but whether all people should have basic human rights regardless of their ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation, and whether undermining democratic systems to protect those rights is worth saving a few bucks on the internet bills that show up in your mailbox in Puna.
I'd also offer up the notion that reducing choices to a matter of just economics is not keeping things local, nor reflective of the culture of Hawai'i, but rather the artifact of a foreign, and some would say colonizing, mindset. Spend time with some Hawaiians and the Hawaiian language and you see an entirely different set of beliefs and priorities related to morals and the community good probably worth considering when trying to figure out the Best option for any given choice here on the islands.
HJ - it is "Counselor" and not "Councilor"
Yeah, caught it on re-read. I'm more accustomed to conversing with County Councilors than lawyers, thank the gods for small mercies.
you found it perfectly OK to defend another poster who called an accomplished Black woman a "black chick."
I'll reply on the Bicker Board as this clearly has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
There is this and this and this and this and this
Some of the interesting context there is that the first three examples are from March and April 2020. So at the onset of a global respiratory pandemic with all the concerns about viral transmission and stay at home orders in Hawai'i, I'd say putting aside qualms about Amazon's monopolistic practices to help protect human life and well-being was the more moral choice. (I'd also point out this probably falls in the "I bought it before [Billionaire X] went crazy" territory as Bezos hadn't gone all in on the "fascism is the merger of state and corporate power" thing yet)
The other two (and one of the previous) I mention Amazon as an option amongst several, including some free ones. As a vendor of last resort for essential items, yeah Amazon has a role to play given the limited options on island IMO - again, as we've discussed before, you can choose to reduce harms, instead of it being a black and white, all or nothing choice, and if someone else is doing it, why shouldn't I (burn tons of fossil fuels leaving centuries of warming and imperiling the ability of the planet to support life just to serve the whims of my entertainment interests) mentality.
At any event, I did what I did, with no regrets.
You had no choice, and now have no ability to choose otherwise. How convenient. It's this sort of self-serving rationalization that gives so many boomers a bad reputation in the eyes of the younger "woke" generations. Guess we can add the rise of authoritarian fascism and propagation of child exploitation media to the environmental degradation, massive income inequality, degradations in health, education, housing, and affordibility standards that is the legacy of your larger-than-all-other-demographics collective choices, both at the ballot box, and with your wallets. But hey, at least you saved yourself a few bucks.
I'd also offer up the notion that reducing choices to a matter of just economics is not keeping things local, nor reflective of the culture of Hawai'i, but rather the artifact of a foreign, and some would say colonizing, mindset. Spend time with some Hawaiians and the Hawaiian language and you see an entirely different set of beliefs and priorities related to morals and the community good probably worth considering when trying to figure out the Best option for any given choice here on the islands.
HJ - it is "Counselor" and not "Councilor"
Yeah, caught it on re-read. I'm more accustomed to conversing with County Councilors than lawyers, thank the gods for small mercies.
you found it perfectly OK to defend another poster who called an accomplished Black woman a "black chick."
I'll reply on the Bicker Board as this clearly has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
There is this and this and this and this and this
Some of the interesting context there is that the first three examples are from March and April 2020. So at the onset of a global respiratory pandemic with all the concerns about viral transmission and stay at home orders in Hawai'i, I'd say putting aside qualms about Amazon's monopolistic practices to help protect human life and well-being was the more moral choice. (I'd also point out this probably falls in the "I bought it before [Billionaire X] went crazy" territory as Bezos hadn't gone all in on the "fascism is the merger of state and corporate power" thing yet)
The other two (and one of the previous) I mention Amazon as an option amongst several, including some free ones. As a vendor of last resort for essential items, yeah Amazon has a role to play given the limited options on island IMO - again, as we've discussed before, you can choose to reduce harms, instead of it being a black and white, all or nothing choice, and if someone else is doing it, why shouldn't I (burn tons of fossil fuels leaving centuries of warming and imperiling the ability of the planet to support life just to serve the whims of my entertainment interests) mentality.
At any event, I did what I did, with no regrets.
You had no choice, and now have no ability to choose otherwise. How convenient. It's this sort of self-serving rationalization that gives so many boomers a bad reputation in the eyes of the younger "woke" generations. Guess we can add the rise of authoritarian fascism and propagation of child exploitation media to the environmental degradation, massive income inequality, degradations in health, education, housing, and affordibility standards that is the legacy of your larger-than-all-other-demographics collective choices, both at the ballot box, and with your wallets. But hey, at least you saved yourself a few bucks.