OK, so Durgin wasn't speculating, and you were by admission. I apologize for mixing that up. However, how does that help your arguments?
All of this from your claim that:
"Finally! After years and years of our illustrious "scientist" vehemently saying otherwise, our Maunas get their due!"
To summarize, Durgin says the island doesn't protect itself; it may help the more western islands, and the mountains may actually help draw storms toward Hawaii Island. In the meantime, you've made a bunch of other claims that you can't support with evidence. Are you willing to back up those arguments?
Yes, a later state, not one that is just offshore. How does the Butterfly Effect cause the center of a storm to change track and intensity while it's a few hundred miles offshore? You have it the wrong way round. The Butterfly Effect is a potential cause of a storm starting, not its center being deflected or influenced by mountains hundreds of miles ahead of it.
All of this from your claim that:
"Finally! After years and years of our illustrious "scientist" vehemently saying otherwise, our Maunas get their due!"
To summarize, Durgin says the island doesn't protect itself; it may help the more western islands, and the mountains may actually help draw storms toward Hawaii Island. In the meantime, you've made a bunch of other claims that you can't support with evidence. Are you willing to back up those arguments?
(04-30-2026, 05:20 AM)MyManao Wrote:(04-30-2026, 05:10 AM)TomK Wrote: That is so dishonest. It's beyond belief that you can be so blatantly dishonest. I'm speechless.
It was a direct quote of mine. But hey, talk about being civil and keeping it on point. Thanks for the example.
(04-30-2026, 04:00 AM)TomK Wrote: Yeah, Durian Fiend, you do remember the Butterfly Effect and how it relates to the mountains of Hawaii affecting hurricanes, right?
Interestingly, the Butterfly Effect was coined, as the link I added to my original post states, by meteorologist Ed Lorenz...
From.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a small change in one state of a deterministic nonlinear system can result in large differences in a later state.
Yes, a later state, not one that is just offshore. How does the Butterfly Effect cause the center of a storm to change track and intensity while it's a few hundred miles offshore? You have it the wrong way round. The Butterfly Effect is a potential cause of a storm starting, not its center being deflected or influenced by mountains hundreds of miles ahead of it.