(07-16-2026, 07:44 PM)randomq Wrote: Better than our cultural melting pot, equality, and democracy?
When folks hold up America as better than one of the bad guys I am reminded of Aaron Sorkin's ideas on the subject..
As to everyone's BS haolefied version of per-contact Hawaii.. I would suggest reading Nana Veary's telling, in her book Change We Must, of the story..
https://archive.org/details/changewemust...7/mode/2up
And, for an even more in-depth understanding of the haole's misconceptions of pre-contact Hawaii, Tales From The Night Rainbow is really an eye opener... and can be read here..
https://archive.org/details/talesfromnig...e/mode/2up
Seriously, you all cling to all that nonsense as if to allow yourselves to believe Hawaiians are no better than monkeys. When in fact they, in many instances, were/are far more civilized than white men have ever been. And morally stand mountains higher than our history of lies and deceitful conquests.

