Tam Hunt - PGV Statement

[Punatang]

Um, difficulty with all of the tards out there who vote.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

a representative government.  They are obligated to adjust their position to reflect the will of the people 

Very true.  Often though, the will of the people as with geothermal is both in favor, and against.  In that case I find it important that a candidate make their position exceptionally clear.  

Then if after elected it becomes clear a situation has dramatically changed, a good politician should change their position to benefit a majority of their constituents, if that can be determined.



Sadly, you have proven my point.

I think at this point, most of us recognize that point was the opposite of your point.
(Have I proved your point?)

[Punatang]

Edge, speaking for the many, posted:   most of us

Most of us what?

Who comprises "most of us" in your mind?  The people in your head?  Or, are you the arbiter of the consensus reality of the silent majority on Punaweb?

Most of us really want to know.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Most of us really want to know.

You proved my point.

[Punatang]

I'll give "most of us" this:

Tam has made a HUGE error in judgement and I'll admit it does give me pause.  Instead of "Local food & local power", he should have made it "Free food & Free power".  He would have won in a landslide.

It was so fun when "most of us" liked him and felt he was so "simpatico".  

If the slippah fits, wear it.

   


Invention idea:  One-size-fits-all flip-flops that fit "most of us"".

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Invention idea: 

Campaign idea:
“I’d like to make my position on geothermal perfectly clear.  If you vote for me I will …”

It would certainly have saved a lot of discussion, interpretation, English to English translations.  Imagine if a candidate who creates that much confusion becomes part of a body that requires debate and compromise?  Would anything get accomplished?

You can try, but you can’t really blame the voters who respond to what for a moment they thought was a platform position.  Until it changed.  If he’s against geothermal expansion make it clear.  There are voters who are anti geothermal.  If he’s part for, part against, that’s fine, say it in a manner that explains how much geothermal he would like to see on Big Island.  What percentage of our grid power generation?  How would that be accomplished?

Make a pro and con chart.
Give the voters credit for being capable of grasping more than one size fits all, that they can hold 2 more complementary ideas which can work in tandem in their head at the same time.

[Punatang]

Is there a middle ground, a candidate who can get elected by Puna voters, but also navigate the Hawaii political system and accomplish something other than paying Oahu consultants for plans and studies of Puna infrastructure needs, while little is actually built?  That is, who will get money appropriated for Puna and spent in Puna?

[HiloJulie]

Accuracy is not a requirement...
Well that's good as his Ilagan donor list analysis overlooks $4000 in contributions in that 2020-2025 time period from Russel Kuwaye, president of Puna Rock (which, last I checked, is still in Puna)

Maybe because, Puna Rock Company is NOT in House District 4? 

Campaign idea:
“I’d like to make my position on geothermal perfectly clear.  If you vote for me I will …”

Anybody know what Greggor has/will do? Outside of his normally stated "as long as it's done right" politician comment?

So, Jules, what pray tell is so difficult as to preclude geothermal from our considerations?

ETA: Feel free to jump in brother 'Tang. I just addressed this to Jules because she's an exert in all things Tam.. sort of a whisperer I suppose.. but hey if you have some observations to add..

I have no issues with geothermal. Had you have read anything I have ever posted about my opinions about geothermal outside of a sentence here or there that you can quote and take out of context, so you can try to toss out another one of your insulting digs against me, you would know that. I am however, convinced that you would be able to sell a black man a KKK outfit in the deep south of Alabama easier that you will get Hawaiians to embrace geothermal. Even if you put it into the hands of a Hawaiian figurehead organization.

I am also no "exert" on Tam. I think he is just the better man for the job. Just as you feel Greggor is the better man.

And speaking of what I assume you meant to say "expert," but who here on PunaWeb knows more that you? On everything under the sun? Volcanos, telescopes, science, the list is endless. You even know more about the law than a degreed lawyer! I most certainly can't hold a candle to your vast knowledge of all things you were never formally educated for!

[Obie]

"That is, who will get money appropriated for Puna and spent in Puna?"

Everyone seems to ignore the fact that we have the world's most active volcano.
How many millions do you think the legislature is going to send here to watch it go up in smoke.

[Punatang]

"That is, who will get money appropriated for Puna and spent in Puna?"

Everyone seems to ignore the fact that we have the world's most active volcano.
How many millions do you think the legislature is going to send here to watch it go up in smoke.

Great point Obie.