Building Codes

[Laughing_girl]

According to your links, this code appears to affect mainly Planning Dept issues, and only a few administrative issues within the Building Dept, not structural procedures.

Here is the actual bill in it's current version: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session201...4_SD1_.HTM This particular bill applies only to setting up a area for research and has specific guidelines to the sustainable community research.

This group did fight against BILL 270 back a few years ago. I think most intelligent people would have and did from what I gather.

What I can not find in any of the links is reference to the structural changes Obie is talking about. I find, after reading the posts again, the original post is as ethereal as the Hawaii Sustainable Community website. Their website while very much geared to sustainability has little substance about the proposals. I tried to follow all the links on their page and it lead me to no actual proposals for a change of ordinance. A number of the links were to 2003, and some links were missing.

So I must ask again, what Building dept permitting changes specifically are you talking about? And can you give me a link if a proposal exists or even the bill proposal #?

[csgray]

Obie,
In the case of an impending Hurricane most people would know to take down a tarp roof, just like Maku'u market does now. It doesn't require a building code to know to do that, just common sense.

Carol

[kalakoa]

Therein lies the problem: use of common sense cannot be safely assumed now that liability lawsuits have eliminated the need for individual judgement and responsibilty.

I'm surprised the last building code revisions didn't go further -- the "safe room" obviously needs to withstand lava inundation rather than a mere tsunami. Think of the children!

[Obie]

Let's ask Rob why he lives in a concrete house .

[Obie]

quote:

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Originally posted by csgray

Obie,
In the case of an impending Hurricane most people would know to take down a tarp roof, just like Maku'u market does now. It doesn't require a building code to know to do that, just common sense.

Carol

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OK they take down the tarp and then what? Where is their shelter?

Hawaii county's hurricane plan is "shelter in place"

[Mendo]

I would love to hear about the building code changes mentioned. Details?

[Seeb]

You can do a search on the forum for "alternative building code" it has been discussed a bunch

[csgray]

Obie,
It's a dining hall, probably not where anyone would shelter in place. There are other shelters on the property, not every building on a property needs to be hurricane worthy. I think this whole thread is just trolling on your part trying to get a rise out of people who support exploring alternatives to the current set of building codes and rules.

Carol

[Laughing_girl]

Here is simple ways to reduce injuries in earthquakes:

https://www.disastersafety.org/?p=7969

Some of the points seem so obvious as to be absurd but as I looked around my home this morning, I saw #7,#4, and #3 that could be corrected.

I did not know anything about #1 - additions that create an "L" configuration being more dangerous. Good to know.

[Seeb]

On the L shape building part,there is a section in the I-code about stress loads on non square buildings