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[TomK]

This you? - "No matter what, we're dealing with gods and goddesses who seem quite evil, according to what you posted."

Yes. How do you get from that to "But Tom, I would hope you will at least define "evil" upfront so that it's clear of what exactly you're accusing all the Punatics on the list."

Once again, I'm not accusing people posting here of being evil. Are you saying pele and god posts here?

[ironyak]

Punatics reside in Puna, not necessarily post on Punaweb.

[TomK]

Punatics reside in Puna, not necessarily post on Punaweb.

Nor am I accusing any punatic of being evil. Does that help? It's obvious to anyone I'm referring to posts on PW, but maybe not to you, so I've clarified things.

[ironyak]

Pele is a Punatic, and you said "... they enjoy doing that kind of stuff or show no remorse for their acts, then they are particularly evil. There are a bunch of religions I can name that do this, plus Pele"

Pretty weak sauce, can't even back up your claims that "we're dealing with gods and goddesses who seem quite evil" and "want me to post what I find evil about religion?" Guess I have to say that I don't respect your view as you can't even explain, much less defend, it.

Hitchens, Harris, et al would be ashamed, guess this round goes to Religion. All ye faithful in Hawai'i rejoice for the "scientist" has given up without even trying.

[TomK]

Pele is a Punatic, and you said "...  they enjoy doing that kind of stuff or show no remorse for their acts, then they are particularly evil. There are a bunch of religions I can name that do this, plus Pele"

Pretty weak sauce, can't even back up your claims that "we're dealing with gods and goddesses who seem quite evil" and "want me to post what I find evil about religion?" Guess I have to say that I don't respect your view as you can't even explain, much less defend it.

Hitchens, Harris, et al would be ashamed, guess this round goes to Religion. All ye faithful in Hawai'i rejoice for the "scientist" has given up without even trying.

Wow. Posting stuff and removing the context. How novel. How dishonest.

[ironyak]

Hey Tom, how are Pele and religion evil?

[Punatang]

[MyManao]

Wow. Posting stuff and removing the context. How novel. How dishonest.

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[TomK]

Hey Tom, how are Pele and religion evil?

Apart from destroying people's lives and homes and causing wars?

https://youtu.be/2tp0UNcjzl8?si=r7EH7AWMF3V2Vygs

https://youtu.be/gaRVzooavRI?si=BMam67O7l0IEH10J

https://youtu.be/kDOGMM9IaT0?si=0UDFLU_lUvqnRI27

https://youtu.be/-Z3kC_V2PNU?si=DK3GjO5NCI0kysHf

Especially:

https://youtu.be/rmsAdhdcetI?si=qYt95S5rYJgeCOZi

[ironyak]

TomK - Apart from destroying people's lives and homes and causing wars?

Wildfires like those in Lahaina destroy people's lives and homes - are they evil? How about similarly destructive floods and hurricanes like Iniki - also evil?

Politics causes wars too, such as the unifying the Hawaiian Islands - are politics evil? If war is a negative to be avoided, what about a war of self-defense ala Pearl Harbor - were the Japanese evil to attack? The US evil to wage war in defense?

Lots of things destroy people's lives and homes and cause wars - does this make them all evil or why is Pele and Religion particularly or distinctly evil to you? (I've heard my Carlin, read my Dawkins, etc so if you want to highlight some argument from your videos feel free, but just throwing links to other people's ideas doesn't explain what you think - unless you're telling us you also pray to Joe Pesci ;)