swarming in the hood today

[LeeE]

They were searching Leilnai. Not tourist copters.

[missydog1]

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Originally posted by 808blogger

when they are hovering 30 feet above the field near your house, with a guy dangling from a rope and a bundle of plants, you can be assured that they are not tourist helicopters.

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Clearly. I wasn't saying the action in Puna could be tours. I was asking if anyone had determined why all the activity on Hamakua by birds that weren't displaying any such overt signs. If I am allowed to broaden the scope of the topic to another district ...

[islandlvng]

Another district? I thought this was Punaweb, not Hamakuaweb. With all the posting you do KathyH, why not just start your own site for the Hamakua area and stop re-direction other peoples topics all the time and turning them into YOUR life stories.

Just a suggestion from someone who actually lives in Puna. And yes, green harvest was all over Puna/Kapoho earlier this week.

Love trying to explain to customers in the mainland why we can't hear each other over the phone for over 30 minutes cause these pricks are hovering over our businesses and coming up empty handed time and time again........

[808blogger]

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Originally posted by islandlvng
Love trying to explain to customers in the mainland why we can't hear each other over the phone for over 30 minutes cause these pricks are hovering over our businesses and coming up empty handed time and time again........

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THIS!!!! (well not the mainland for me, but phone calls none the less)

[csgray]

islandlvng:
While this forum is called Punaweb, Rob's simple rule is "Keep it Hawaii". Although people do occasionally stray into distant territory during threads he seems to only rein them in if they post an entirely non-Hawaii topic or post (especially partisan political rants). When I was teaching a film history class and asked for suggestions someone got their knickers in a twist and demanded Rob shut the thread down. To me, a Hawaii teacher, teaching a class to Hawaii students in a Hawaii school, who asks Hawaii residents what movies they think are truly great was appropriate to Punaweb. Rob did too, because he didn't shut the thread down.

People are the sum of their experiences and tend to draw on those experiences as a way to explain their thinking. If you don't like KathyH's posts, simply ignore them, but the only ones who can suggest a member isn't welcome are Rob and the shadowy operating committee. I think you are still holding a grudge from the thread you started last winter that turned into a flame war.

Carol

Edited to add that according to the random group of people at our house last night, the helicopters were buzzing Black Sands, Hawaiian Acres, Ainaloa and HPP yesterday.

[mdd7000]

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Originally posted by 808blogger

when they are hovering 30 feet above the field near your house, with a guy dangling from a rope and a bundle of plants, you can be assured that they are not tourist helicopters.

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Where are the pictures, the video?

[csgray]

You know every time there is a thread on GH helicopters the same people demand pictures and video, or claim it must be search and rescue or line clearing, and then a few days later the paper will have a story about the great job the DEA and Hawaii county did getting all those pot plants. Why can't you guys just accept the fact that: yes this does happen, and yes it annoys the hell out of people who have to endure it, and quit demanding that the victims of this intrusion into their homes and lives (meaning everyone under the flights) prove to you what they are experiencing?

Before you start accusing me of being drug addled, lots of people who hate Green Harvest are not pot growers or even smokers, including the two Vietnam war vets who were at our house last night, who have serious issues with PTSD that are made much worse by this activity of our government. We the People should be able to enjoy our lives in peace and quiet, without being terrorized by our own government in our homes, when we are breaking no laws. GH sweeps with a mighty wide broom, and it probably has more adverse affects on the people of Puna than the dope growers possibly could.

My mother was a criminal court judge for many years, she pioneered drug courts and court ordered treatment in her state. She says that when the prosecution of a crime causes more harm to society than the crime, then the law is out of line and should be changed.

Carol

[PaulW]

csgray, I don't deny Green Harvest exists, as a matter of fact I know it exists.
I just think people exaggerate. If they really fly that low and that close for that long then why doesn't anyone film it?
It's a horrendous invasion of privacy and illegal, dangerous etc so film it and send it to the authorities and/or the news channels. And put it on youtube. Is there some reason why this isn't happening that you can think of, apart from the obvious?

[csgray]

In my case it is because I do not own a video camera, and probably couldn't find it in time even if I did, and if I did find it the batteries would probably be dead. I also think it is probably very hard to judge distance from below something in the sky, on film or in person. If anyone did get video, MDD7000 would probably claim it was as fake as those old UFO photos that predate the internet. And the "authorities" obviously don't care how low they are, they are the ones sending the helicopters out.

Carol

edited to add this post may have set a record for the use of the word probably in one paragraph! Sorry for the redundancy.

[PaulW]

But could those be the reasons that (apparently) nobody has ever filmed any of these helicopters?
If you did have a video camera you'd find it in time, you could even recharge the batteries, because we're told that they hover over people's houses for 30 minutes at a time (see above).