dengue fever could be here to stay

[ironyak]

Originally posted by terracore
wouldn't that control group consist of EVERYBODY who has ever had a blood test with Dengue that didn't drink papaya leaf juice?

Unfortunately, no. There are known trends in the disease progression including a drop and then a recovery in blood cell counts. To show that papaya leaf juice is having any effect you need side-by-side control group to ensure the other factors (disease strain, supportive care, etc) are all the same.

Here's a chart derived from the WHO guides on dengue showing the general disease progression - notice the rise in platelets around day 6-7, the same as seen in the 12 patients given papaya leaf juice?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:...orized.svg

Considering that papaya leaf juice is free to most of us, and if there are no downsides, why not try it?

IF there are no downsides, why not indeed? Many in Malaysia, where dengue outbreaks include hundreds of fatalities, have come to a similar conclusion.
http://says.com/my/lifestyle/can-papaya-...ngue-fever

The 2013 study linked at the end of the article had 290 participants with a control group and provides some real evidence of increased platelet count for those treated with papaya leaf juice.

[ericlp]

In all honesty from what I've read and come to the conclusion that you'd probably be better off drinking a shot of noni juice.


Until a read vaccine is in place... Probably best bet sadly is to keep drinking lots of liquids, vitamins, and tylenol.

[lavalava]

92 and counting... 100 soon?

[kalakoa]

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news...earing-100

Apparently the Big Island has reached the same number of cases as the Maui outbreak, but in less than half the time, and with more known vector sites.

[Punatic007]

I'm wondering what's the possibility of types 2 - 4 coming here?

[kalakoa]

Suddenly the CDC is visting. This couldn't happen before?

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/loca...big-island

Finally raising this issue:

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/loca...ism-so-far

On the east side of the island, customer service representatives at hotels and car rental companies are finding themselves on the front lines when it comes to educating visitors about the outbreak.

...but with no help (in the form of pamphlets, repellent) from State or County, unlike the Maui outbreak.

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/comm...ember-25-0

We are advised to use mosquito repellent to lessen the chances of spreading dengue fever, but all the stores seem to be sold out of these products and haven’t replaced them.
Can the agencies in charge of disease control not do something to remedy this situation ?

Indeed.

[kalakoa]

For some reason I find this incredibly funny:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/2...8220151125

So ... is Hawaii not part of "the Homeland", or is dengue fever "safe"?

[leilanidude]

One would surmise that the big name brands in mosquito control would seize the marketing opportunity and immediately send over a cargo plane full of their products. Not that they have to give them away, but to re-stock local supplies.

[kalakoa]

Not that they have to give them away, but to re-stock local supplies.

Both: give away "trial size", stock the stores (and price it "on sale").

Continuing to do nothing creates a huge "optics issue".

[Bullwinkle]

full scale public screening would also be a good idea .....we really dont know how many cases there are until we have an easy / free and available diagnostic service in place

or maybe we just do not want to know?