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"What's not to like?"
My friend moved out of there because he was sick of chasing people off his property in the middle of the night and crack heads showing up at all hours day and night asking for things/casing the place. And the housing density so tight that on Friday nights he could hear different yelling matches in 360 degree surround sound. He lived near the community center, it might be "better" further away.
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He lived near the community center, it might be "better" further away.
Until that part of the subdivision gets built out (if ever).
I wonder how the other "7500sf minimum lot size" subdivisions compare?
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The minimum sq ft now is 880. Even though they are AG lots they become residential once you build a permitted house on them. So I am building unpermitted. I went into the office yesterday to ask about structures, codes, and what not and the lady at the front desk is rehearsed to tell you " read the CC&R's that should help you" I just bought a lot down towards the bottom. Very quiet location, few neighbors, plenty of people living in unpermitted structures. I will go with what a (local kine)contractor told me to do. After you buy property, the HOA is contacted with your details about you and property. Do not build, grade, pave, or do anything to that property for at least 6 months, after you have your property surveyed they will be cruising by to see if the new owner has started to build, put catchment etc;. This is a "cooling off period" Then when they start chasing after other problems and properties they start to get busy elsewhere. Quietly start work on your place a little at a time. You do not need a permit to clear land. Once you clear a drive and pad, put up a gate and lock it. I am lucky I only have 2 neighbors and they are not really close enough to see whats going on. They might hear me weed whacking and my backhoe but that's it. Lay low, keep to yourself and build something nice and no one will bother you. Make sure you keep your land as jungle natural as possible so no one can see you. I have also spoken with others who built unpermitted. As long as your HOA are fees on time it keeps them fat and happy! It's all about the money and being a good quiet neighbor. quote:
Originally posted by kalakoa
He lived near the community center, it might be "better" further away.
Until that part of the subdivision gets built out (if ever).
I wonder how the other "7500sf minimum lot size" subdivisions compare?
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Even though they are AG lots they become residential once you build a permitted house on them.
No, they're still zoned Ag, even when used as "residential" with a "primary dwelling by right".
You do not need a permit to clear land.
Actually, it's that Nanavale lots are too small to require grading/grubbing permits.
Make sure you keep your land as jungle natural as possible
Exactly. Thicken it up a bit, too, maybe some gliricidia or cariacature...
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I lived in Black Sands and Ainaloa. Black Sands is sketchy and noisy at the beginning, but further in back more quiet, just lots of homeless camping out on vacant lots and there is noise from wild roosters and people with boom boom music. Ainaloa, I lived next to neighbors running a generator and wild parties next door from landlords house on weekends, was not very quiet in that area, but visited other areas that were nice. I am sure in any subdivision you going to have to good, the bad and the ugly, you just have to look around until you find "that spot". No subdivision is better or any worse off than the other. It is all what YOU make it. It is up to you, to find your little paradise and make it nice. I happen to like Nanawale location because I am a water woman, snorkeler, paddleboard person so I am close to tide pools, warm ponds, and Pohoiki. quote:
Originally posted by kalakoa
He lived near the community center, it might be "better" further away.
Until that part of the subdivision gets built out (if ever).
I wonder how the other "7500sf minimum lot size" subdivisions compare?
Dreams are not what you see in your sleep, they are the very thing which does not let you sleep.
"Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love" RUMI
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Ahhhhh thank you for clearing up the AG lot thing! quote:
Originally posted by kalakoa
Even though they are AG lots they become residential once you build a permitted house on them.
No, they're still zoned Ag, even when used as "residential" with a "primary dwelling by right".
You do not need a permit to clear land.
Actually, it's that Nanavale lots are too small to require grading/grubbing permits.
Make sure you keep your land as jungle natural as possible
Exactly. Thicken it up a bit, too, maybe some gliricidia or cariacature...
Dreams are not what you see in your sleep, they are the very thing which does not let you sleep.
"Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love" RUMI
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What do you think of Naupaka? It looks quite dense, and great for the front of the lot and probably the back. quote:
Originally posted by Leliu5th
Ahhhhh thank you for clearing up the AG lot thing!quote:
Originally posted by kalakoa
Even though they are AG lots they become residential once you build a permitted house on them.
No, they're still zoned Ag, even when used as "residential" with a "primary dwelling by right".
You do not need a permit to clear land.
Actually, it's that Nanavale lots are too small to require grading/grubbing permits.
Make sure you keep your land as jungle natural as possible
Exactly. Thicken it up a bit, too, maybe some gliricidia or cariacature...
Dreams are not what you see in your sleep, they are the very thing which does not let you sleep.
Dreams are not what you see in your sleep, they are the very thing which does not let you sleep.
"Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love" RUMI
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Naupaka doesnt grow tall, its a coastal plant usually under 6' tall... it wont like too much shade either. it like hot sun, salt spray, and sand and raw lava... ie its likes to hang w/ coconut trees...
if youre thinking native go w/ Hala and all of the native hibiscus, some grow over 35' tall ie all 5 of the white ones...... or some canoe plants ie Ki, Kukui, Ulu, Hau, Noni, etc.
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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Mahalo I am familiar with Naupaka, I am using lava rock wall to landscape in front with the naupaka. I have plenty of surrounding Ohia that are blooming. The naupaka will be in front, second will be a row of Areca Palms behind, it will be the front driveway. I only have one neighbor on the corner and there is no traffic. You cannot walk or drive around the gate, too much thick fern and extremely uneven landscape from all the fallen trees and the dogs will find any intruder, gives me time to get the machete! LOL
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The minimum required house size is still 220 square feet, not 880. The zoning does not change from ag to residential once you build a house. And, at any time after building an unpermitted structure, anyone can file an anonymous complaint and the County can come and enforce the Building Codes. Just wanted to clear up some misinformation.
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