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[mermaid53]

Actually kalakoa, what happened this time was based upon pure ignorance. Now that their error has been pointed out to them, they're grasping at straws to find a bylaw that doesn't exist, that says these 2 reps aren't officers.

Because L Laucik is legally still the president, she is supposed to be the one who makes up the agenda and chairs the next board meeting.

[Obie]

Actually this section pertains to the board :

Section 7. Removal. Any officer, director, or agent elected or appointed may be removed by the persons authorized to elect or
appoint the officer, director, or agent with or without cause.

[TomK]

"Actually kalakoa, what happened this time was based upon pure ignorance. Now that their error has been pointed out to them, they're grasping at straws to find a bylaw that doesn't exist, that says these 2 reps aren't officers."

How do we know that they're now grasping at straws? Once again, I can't make heads nor tail of what's going on and suspect those who have also expressed their confusion here will agree. And please stop with the shorthand, it makes things difficult to read let alone understand.

[kalakoa]

How do we know that they're now grasping at straws?

Skip ahead to "what difference does it make?"

Either they're brilliant criminal masterminds, or they're bumbling idiots; neither is a good option. Even if they're technically correct, resources are being wasted on efforts that are not part of the mandate to "maintain roads". Pretty sure that's not what the membership intended, nor does it serve their interests, but it's obvious that those who actually care are in the minority. Look no further than the first post:

Out of the 1,200 ballots the Nominating Committee mailed, only 150 came back.

When's that park going in? As a taxpayer, I have a vested interest in maintaining public access thereto.

[mermaid53]

Where one goes the other will follow....

Tom, explain "shorthand", I think there are many who don't understand what you're talking about.

I have written to the full board pointing out their error. If you've been keeping up Tom, you read the most recent bylaw article I quoted...therefore you should see the bylaws states that an officer serves on the board until their successor is installed. The board didn't vote in new officers at the same meeting they deposed the 2 reps at, therefore the 2 officers are still officers of the board until the board votes in replacements.

A board rep responded to my email letter saying they have 60 days to replace officers. This is not true. 60 days replacement applies to officers who've resigned from the board, or have resigned as an officer of their own free will.

This is a very unusual predicament the board is in, coupled with the secretary's resignation of his officer seat. IMO, a giant red flag that things have escalated in the wrong direction. One of the things the former board secretary said when he resigned as an officer, was that it appears the board has gone backwards. He said the board looks like the same board before he came on. Many people concur with his statement.

This majority board is going back to their old MO of running HPP. Their idea of progress is to move swiftly ahead, w/out crossing their t's and dotting their i's, and with disregard of all laws....and those that want to ensure business is done according to our bylaws, county, and federal laws, are marked as obstructionists to progress. They were protecting the association from further lawsuits and protecting OUR $$$$. i.e. Remember the chip seal blunder? These are the same people driving the car again.

The board meeting is next week. They can replace the officers at that meeting, but for now L Laucik is still president and L Blyth is still treasurer.

P. S. We lost a really good board secretary when D Roe resigned as secretary. He was one of the best board secretaries I've seen in a long long time. Ethical, honest, and made excellent effort to do his job as outlined in the bylaws. Very sad.

[Old Croc]

Mermaid, Tom may be referring to your truncated words like "sd" and "bc."
"Their idea of progress is to move swiftly ahead, w/out crossing their t's and dotting their i's, and with disregard of all laws....and those that want to ensure business is done according to our bylaws, county, and federal laws, are marked as obstructionists to progress."
Sounds exactly like the Democrats and Republicans! "I have a phone and a pen."

[Obie]

I think Tom may be upset with my shorthand !

Here is the bylaw that applies to what happened. Mermaid is quoting the wrong bylaw.

ARTICLE VIII – BOARD OF DIRECTORS....
Section 7. Removal....

Section 7. Removal. Any officer, director, or agent elected or appointed may be removed by the persons authorized to elect or
appoint the officer, director, or agent with or without cause. The removal of a director shall be without prejudice to the contract
rights, if any, of the director so removed. Election or appointment of a director shall not of itself create contract rights.

[mermaid53]

Thx Old Croc, and that may be so...but in my world shorthand is AKA stenography.

What I'd like to add to the majority board's erroneous statement that they have 60 days to replace the officers they just deposed is this...the 60 day language is in Appendix E in the back of the bylaw book.. Appendix, not a bylaw.

Bottom line, since they failed to fill the 2 ofcr seats they just willfully made vacant, Article XI Sec 1 (a)....Officers serve until their successors are installed......", is applicable.

Either they're brilliant criminal masterminds, or they're bumbling idiots; neither is a good option

I tend to think it's the latter...and yes neither is a good option.

[TomK]

"sd, bc, ofc, w/D, w/in, w/a, w/the w/etc., mtg, esp, FC, PT, #, $$$, appt'd, ofcr". Just some examples.

I find it much easier to read something if it isn't full of the above and doesn't assume the reader knows the people you're writing about. We're not texting each other on Punaweb.

[mermaid53]

Pretty good collection there...looks like you took the liberty to expand upon it. In the end, it's my choice....