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TomK, looks like that address for the governor was bad, or their mail server is broken:
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I know they want us to call, but I'm not much of a verbal person, so I wrote strongly-worded emails to the 3 listed above and Ruderman. Thanks for all the info., Tom. Underhanded and backhanded, this attempt at killing TMT is not only unfortunate, it's transparent.
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Here's the latest:
1) Both HB 1985 (previously HB 3090) and HB 1585 (the one that'll kill the TMT) were amended today no the Senate Floor. This meant that a final vote couldn't be held today. The amendments included setting their effective dates to 2033, which is simply allows either bill to stay alive without legislative action and means they go to conference committee and will also be discussed by the Senate again this Thursday. This means there is still time to contact legislators if you wish.
Kahele will also be holding his final public meeting about these bills tomorrow (Wednesday 11th April) at 7 pm at Ka Waiwai Collective, 1110 University Ave #100, Honolulu, if anyone happens to be in the area.
Links to both bills in their current amended format:
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session20...5_SD3_.HTM
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session20...5_SD2_.HTM
Remeber: HB 1985 was about a new MK management authority that was killed in the house but re-introduced to the Senate by gut-and-replace, and the text of HB 1585 is completely new and using gut-and-replace was introduced without the possibility of public testimony.
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I should be able to attend the meeting tomorrow.
I plan on asking what attempts he made to resolve his issues with the management through the university before coming to the conclusion that a new management body was needed.
Let me know if there are any other specific questions you would like me to ask.
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rainyjim - there are some obvious questions if you can attend:
Why promote false information (TMT affect water, views etc) in an attempt to start a new management authority, especially if he is pro-TMT as he says he is?
The bill for a new MK management authority is publicly deeply unpopular (around 90% are against it). Why are you continuing to try and make it law?
Why use such undemocratic means for preventing new construction on MK without giving the public a chance to testify, thereby essentially killing the TMT?
Despite OMKM being successful and receiving acclaim from auditors and the state for their accomplishments since they were formed, what exactly have they done wrong in your eyes that they need to be replaced?
For that last one, don't fall for his story about an ahu being demolished. It wasn't an OMKM employee who did that and it wasn't in the area MKWC manage.
What are his plans to keep the astronomy/physics programs going at UH without UH having access to the MK observatories?
Let me know if you need more background info on any of the above.
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Okay, unsure of the format for the meeting but I doubt I will be given the opportunity to ask that many questions.
Is there one or two you'd find most pertinent, or something you're genuinely curious about (that you don't already know the answer to)?
I'll ask all those questions given the opportunity - thanks Tom. I have been following the issue for a few years now so have some background, but it's nice to have a 'list' of the main issues.
Maybe if you have any resources for basic debunking of the false claims against the TMT and/or the 'mismanagement' by the OMKM - to be honest I literally haven't heard or read one way that the area has actually been mismanaged - only claims that it is.
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rainyjim,
I realize I listed a lot of questions but didn't mean you should ask all of them, I doubt you'll be given the chance for that anyway. I'm hoping there will be people there from the Institute for Astronomy at Manoa who will ask some of those questions anyway (people there have been told of the meeting).
Maybe just stick to your original question but expand on it a bit, e.g., including the fact that public testimony (from pro and anti-TMT folk) for a new management authority was almost entirely against the bill and deeply unpopular, so why keep pushing it and ignoring the community?
Hopefully, the astronomical community will ask the questions that are specific to TMT and astronomy on Mauna Kea.
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Tom, 10-4.
Btw, do you know the answer to my question? Has Kahele publicly tried to engage with UH/OMKM at all prior to the drafting of this bill?
Thanks.
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I don't know. The only interaction I'm aware of is here:
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2018/0...anagement/
See
http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24339&whichpage=3
Given his lies about the TMT in public meetings, I'd be very surprised to learn he had discussions with UH or OMKM. So I think your question is very interesting.
