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07-13-2022, 04:30 PM
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Not Puna, but I'm very excited by this:
Pohue Bay to be preserved: Hawaii Volcanoes National Park adds 16,000 acres with addition of Ka‘u land - West Hawaii Today
Public access to Pohue Bay on fed lands coming? Any idea what that would look like?
Something like Puuhonua o Honaunau and Kaloko-Honokōhau?
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Great, yet another pristine beach about to be overrun by the hordes of tourii.
I can hardly wait for a Ranger to kick me out of the bay that I've been going to for decades.
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07-13-2022, 05:44 PM
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Was there a few months back on the advice of a local friend that lives above and I did enjoy the feeling of serenity and the much needed and refreshing peace that I felt from hiking down to the sand and back. I would hope that they to keep it remotely accessible and hopefully in it's pristine, relatively unaffected by humans, state of being. There really isn't a need or reason to make it more accessible to anyone who doesn't already go there for subsistence/spiritual reasons. And yes, that hike kicked my out of shape okole something fierce. Despite that it was a wonderful time but there is no legitimate reason for me to go back there other than for some personal selfish reason. Much less someone heading there to "just to see it" to whore it as a bucket list item for social media.
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I love that place, been there a few times, but if you go, you're tresspassing to get there. And as noted, you need to dedicate a nearly full day to the in and out for the hike. I saw one clever guy go with a pickup with a ATV and a ramp, parked the truck at the end of the road, unloaded the ATV, and the ATV made the trip down there in no time flat.
At the risk of backlash, I'll share my counter opinion. I for one would love to see the a bunch of improvements, and some park officials actively checking the access. All sorts of methods to allow access easily and legally, without it getting ruined. Charge to enter, just like the summit gate. Or, even further, apply the Haleakala sunrise model of a limited number of daily reserved passes.
Why? Kau has no easily accessible white sand beaches. It needs one.
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Fine! Make a road, put in a lua and have a Ranger at the gate who only allows people with Hawaii IDs.
I am not joking. This is a special place and does not deserve to be desecrated by 'progress'.
The tour buses already stop at Punalu'u, let's keep them there!
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07-13-2022, 09:34 PM
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How about free with Hawaii ID, or $30/vehicle otherwise? They gonna want to make some money.
After some further research, this looks to be one of the last dominos to fall in the recent transfer of coastal Kau lands into public (county, state, federal, or conservation society). Bishop Estates has one left, and a private citizen has one more.
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If it wasn’t added to Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, how long before the property is bought by a private company? Hotel, golf course, etc. 5 years? 10? 15?
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how long before the property is bought by a private company?
Irrelevant, because the planning/permitting process takes literally forever.
This is a special place and does not deserve to be desecrated by 'progress'.
I'll do my part by never going there, in addition to all the other places that are "too sacred" for a non-local. Why even live here if everything is "too special"?
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Why even live here if everything is "too special"?
Because… Aloha?
Welcome to some, and preferably goodbye to others?
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(07-13-2022, 09:40 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: If it wasn’t added to Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, how long before the property is bought by a private company? Hotel, golf course, etc. 5 years? 10? 15?
It WAS owned by a private company. Lani Kahuku Aina LLC, out of Beverly Hills. Been trying to get support to build a hotel, condos, golf course, etc down there for years. To convert it to Waikaloa, more or less.
After years of trying and failing, they listed it well over a year ago. It's a stroke of luck for Kau that the land trust got $9M together to buy it, and subsequently donate to HVNP.