Most expensive groceries in the country...

[HiloJulie]

I've always found the two types of people in this world are those who want to know, and those who want to believe.

[Durian Fiend]

HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote:
let’s grumble about our $100.00 of groceries at the checkout costing $100.08.  Because of SNAP.

Is that intentional transmission of false information or is it just a case of Friday brain?

Would you like to correct my comment?

There are two types of people in the world:

Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets

...And those would rather hazard a wild guess based on their political biases.

[Punatang]

HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote:
let’s grumble about our $100.00 of groceries at the checkout costing $100.08.  Because of SNAP.

Is that intentional transmission of false information or is it just a case of Friday brain?

Would you like to correct my comment?

There are two types of people in the world:

Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets

...And those would rather hazard a wild guess based on their political biases.

Precisely.  Thank you DF.

[randomq]

Maybe we can take advantage of our new billionaires? They want to hide out in their Hawaii bunkers, maybe we can convince them to invest in automated and containerized farming to feed the whole population of the Big Island, in an effort not only to feed themselves but prevent the rest of the population from eating them?

How many staples would we have to be able to make for ourselves to flip the script on food costs? Rice, wheat, corn, soy? Chicken, eggs, beef, milk? Taro, potato, onion, garlic? If we make all the bulky stuff, would it be cheaper to ship in the remaining small stuff like spices?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets

Do you have any comments about those who extrapolate from thin air? From page one?  Which started the discussion on maps and data sets?

[Punatang]

Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets

Do you have any comments about those who extrapolate from thin air? From page one?  Which started the discussion on maps and data sets?

Whatabout what?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Whatabout what?

Hey Rocky!
Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!
Nothin’ up my sleeve…

[Punatang]

Whatabout what?

Hey Rocky!
Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!
Nothin’ up my sleeve…

Precisely.  Thank you Edge.

[ironyak]

There are two types of people in the world...
Those who can do 6th grade math and those that can't? What with all these dividing lines being drawn, probably worth brushing up on middle school geometry and geography as well for those that skipped or forgot it.

large amounts of S.N.A.P. fuels it. Free money tends to do that.
I'd say something about correlation doesn't equal causation, but as pointed out there's not even correlation, so maybe it's more along the lines that fact-free self-serving narratives don't equal reality? Hawaii has the highest cost of living of any state, across almost all categories, including groceries.

"Hawaii’s cost of living index is 193.3, the highest in the nation, meaning the cost of living in the state is almost twice the average. The state is also the most expensive in the U.S. across all metrics except healthcare [ETA: 2nd only to Alaska]. Hawaii’s housing costs are three times the national average, with a typical single-family home averaging $730,511. Renters pay an average of $2,399 for a two-bedroom apartment in the state. Groceries also cost 50% more than the national average, as most goods have to be shipped to the island."

Probably worth considering how to address the affordability crisis instead of claiming it's all a hoax, if the goal is to actually help people and not just oneself. (more than a billion dollars in personal enrichment would pay for more than a few musubi for everyone, but I'll let those without "Friday brain" sort out the math involved for themselves)

[HiloJulie]

"Hawaii’s cost of living index is 193.3, the highest in the nation, meaning the cost of living in the state is almost twice the average. The state is also the most expensive in the U.S. across all metrics except healthcare [ETA: 2nd only to Alaska]. Hawaii’s housing costs are three times the national average, with a typical single-family home averaging $730,511. Renters pay an average of $2,399 for a two-bedroom apartment in the state. Groceries also cost 50% more than the national average, as most goods have to be shipped to the island."

One more thing to add - Hawaii is the worst State to drive! So, we got that going for us too.

As for affordability, and costs and all that, is also good to know that just as our esteemed Agriculture Secretary's claim of a meal costing only 3 dollars, now our as well esteemed Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent claims that the typical average "mom and pop" retired couple today own "5, 10 or even 12 homes.

When those who haven't got a clue listen to and believe those who also haven't got a clue, well, again, here we are! It's those filthy, always getting pregnant damned SNAP recipients causing all this "unaffordability."