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1965 Ohio University tuition was probably about $3,000 or even less in today’s dollars
In the early 1970’s I paid $125-$150 a semester for in-state tuition at a Big 10 university. My room in an apartment was $55 a month. An ice cream cone at the student union was 10 or 15 cents. Same for a beer. There was a view on the terrace overlooking a lake. Haunani Trask was a student at the same time I was there. But I don’t think I ever met her because I don’t remember anyone calling me haole while I attended.
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(04-13-2026, 04:41 AM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: 1965 Ohio University tuition was probably about $3,000 or even less in today’s dollars
In the early 1970’s I paid $125-$150 a semester for in-state tuition at a Big 10 university. My room in an apartment was $55 a month. An ice cream cone at the student union was 10 or 15 cents. Same for a beer. There was a view on the terrace overlooking a lake. Haunani Trask was a student at the same time I was there. But I don’t think I ever met her because I don’t remember anyone calling me haole while I attended.
Just for comparison, in 1986, the UK government paid for my tuition and gave me a grant for living expenses, including rent. Drinking age was 18, and the student union bar sold a pint of Tetley's for 59p. Things have changed since then, of course. Ever since then, the UK has changed its policies, and I don't know whether the US or Hawaii has changed theirs, but the idea was to get as many people into higher education as possible while charging them for it.
All I see from that is millions of people with useless degrees and serious debt. I don't know if Hawaii did things differently, but I don't think they did. All the observatories are looking for electronic technicians and engineers, and there are ridiculously few candidates in Hawaii, so the search continues.
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04-13-2026, 05:57 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-13-2026, 05:59 AM by HiloJulie.)
So what's stopping you? You have access to today's technologies, same as everyone, plenty of time and money and assets for loan collateral, unlike most younger people who need two full time workers just to live paycheck to paycheck, and few to no obligations, unlike those working while raising kids and caring for elderly relatives. What's your excuse again for not setting up your Win Win Costco delivery service?
The self-serving mythologies never cease to amuse though - over the last 60 years and adjusted for inflation, the boomers had access to the cheapest housing (In 1965, average house was <3x average annual salary, versus 5.3x today), cheapest college education ("1965 Ohio University tuition was probably about $3,000 or even less in today’s dollars. Today [2018], the in-state tuition is $12,192 [2026 - $14,582], about quadruple [or quintuple] the 1965 rate"), cheap medical care (out of pocket cost have doubled), etc, etc...
In some ways, many of you are like the indoor cats of macroeconomic financial challenges, lots of strutting around with little actual experience scrapping in the streets, having arrived after your parents' challenges with the Great Depression and WWII, and made your bank and pulled up the ladder behind you as GenX ran into 80s and 90s off-shoring and globalization, and the 2008 Financial Crisis that Millennials graduated into with 5 figure or higher student loan debt. That's why boomers hold 50+% of the total wealth, GenX at 26%, and Millennials and GenZ at just 10% (even though there are more of them than both Boomers or GenX at this point).
However, as Edge noted, money can't solve everything and you're going to grow increasingly reliant on, and at the mercy of, those youth you like to deride so much. Probably best to make sure you have some relationships that aren't based on money alone because as those hippie rockers liked to say back in their prime "Money Can't Buy You Love" and "No one here... gets out alive".
Silly me, I thought my comment would have had you assume that the boomer would have done that in his prime, not expected to do it in his golden, end of life years. Shame on me for the assumption I had that you could intellectually understand that.
I raised my kids already. I took care of and watched my eiders die.
And I find it so damned typical and smug of you to ask what my excuse is for not reliving my life all over again to deliver Costco products to your door of your mom's basement.
Right, or wrong, my generation paid its dues. There comes a time for the younger generations to sh*t or get off the pot. It's your time now to get off the pot instead of pretending to sh*t and issuing your no help, endless criticisms of everything and everyone else, excepting yourself of course. And yet saying nothing about the scam itself. I doubt ANY boomer played part of a Costco Insta Cart scam, excepting possibly the all too trusting elder boomer victim.
But then the question is what's stopping you? Could there be a win win situation for someone with a little initiative and drive and a slight risk-taking attitude to possibly pull off an enterprising venture. With possible governmental SBA loans and/or grants. Maybe get off Mom's couch and do something?
That's one hell of a sentence!
Thanks once again for offering nothing to the thread topic, but just yet again, another attempt at a dig.
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(04-13-2026, 05:57 AM)HiloJulie Wrote: Right, or wrong, my generation paid its dues. There comes a time for the younger generations to sh*t or get off the pot. It's your time now to get off the pot instead of pretending to sh*t and issuing your no help, endless criticisms of everything and everyone else, excepting yourself of course. And yet saying nothing about the scam itself. I doubt ANY boomer played part of a Costco Insta Cart scam, excepting possibly the all too trusting elder boomer victim.
It's stupid to blame generations. Of course, there are differences, but labeling an entire generation is ridiculous.
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(04-13-2026, 06:11 AM)TomK Wrote: It's stupid to blame generations. Of course, there are differences, but labeling an entire generation is ridiculous.
I agree that it is Tom. Being clear, I am not the one labeling entire generations. Try reading a few of the Yak's generational bashing posts.
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Both of you are doing it.
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All the observatories are looking for electronic technicians and engineers, and there are ridiculously few candidates in Hawaii
I wish them luck.
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OK.
In case my previous warning gets lost in the scrum I’ll repeat it here:
Costco does offer Instacart delivery.
Generally they probably won’t find a driver to deliver smaller orders to the east side of Hawaii Island from Kona.
There have been instances of larger orders getting hijacked by scammer delivery people.
Buyer beware.
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04-13-2026, 06:04 PM
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HiloJulie - There comes a time for the younger generations to sh*t or get off the pot.
Repeated financial crises (Roger offshoring Me lifetime-and-a-gold-watch factory job, 2008 Florida strippers buying too many houses on deregulated credit, a once-a-century pandemic being ignored by boomers in charge so younger essential workers are subjected to life-threatening conditions so other entitled boomers can stay at home and order weed, record inflation due to Boomer-in-chief cutting taxes for high earners and not recapturing those PPP loan scams, and lead boomer driving up costs on everything by trying to get even with the dead for a 50-year-old revenge plot over the 1953 US overthrow of a democratically elected leader) have left many in the younger generation with no pot to piss in. Left us having to compost poop, and pee on the fruit trees and other "rocks" as needed.
And yet saying nothing about the scam itself.
Oh no, poor Instacart, whatever can they do to protect themselves from having to refund the customers' money other than to actually require their drivers be near the GPS of the delivery location when closing an order, or checking that enough time has passed to reasonably believe food was picked up and delivered, or actually posting a receipt from the right store like Costco with the right date, etc... Corpo scum - they've done nothing and are all out of ideas - probably best not to give them your money, even if it gets refunded ultimately (which seems to be the case with that FB (?) thread.)
But then the question is what's stopping you?
Raising kids, taking care of older relatives, and working most every day. What makes you think I, of all people, am trying to encourage people drive even farther, to the other side of the island at that, as a regular solution for fetching their food? I'm on Team Light Edge, with the growing of turnips in the backyard solutions, not Team Dark Edge, with the "just one more lane bro" induced demand driving solutions.
Thanks once again for offering nothing to the thread topic, but just yet again, another attempt at a dig.
Yeah, you too Edge, what have you done, other than start the thread, and inform us of the status of your test order, and provide the warning story about Instacart - such a slacker.
You can join us in the basement if you like - we got recreational options at least as good as those Point Place Wisconsin kids, can roll some D20s to fight the demogorgons, maybe order a pizza, with pineapple, far out, and watch some Linklater if you like. Mom's dead so we're on our own, but can do most anything, if we dream together and work together.
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And we're off to the races...
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