General Plan approved despite fervent opposition

[MyManao]

From.. https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/202...pposition/

Which at least when I went there was not (yet?) behind their paywall, and reads, in part..

The Hawaii County Council voted 5-3 on Wednesday in favor of passing a long-term public planning document described by opponents at the meeting as “treason,” an “act of war,” a “blatant land-grab,” “brainwashing,” “immoral” and the product of “blackmail.”

Council members Dennis Onishi, Ashley Kierkiewicz and Holeka Inaba all cast “no” votes. Puna Councilman Matt Kaneali‘i-Kleinfelder was absent.

Before the vote, the Hilo council chambers swelled with testifiers eager to speak on Bill 66, the vast majority of whom stood in opposition. The bill adopts the Hawaii County General Plan 2045 — a 20-year comprehensive policy document guiding land use, growth, public services and transportation on the island. Wednesday’s meeting marked the legislation’s second and final reading.

The bill now heads to the desk of Mayor Kimo Alameda. Alameda has indicated that he would neither sign the measure nor veto it, effectively letting it pass but demonstrating his “reservations.”

“I’m not happy with it as-is,” he told the Tribune-Herald after the vote, criticising the plan as “too prescriptive” and needing amendments, saying it should “move itself back to more of the middle and not be so one-sided.”

If you read through the entire article you'll find just how rabid, how uneducated, and emotionally manipulated.. driven.. those opposing masses are. For my money, *  even here on the little ol' Big Island.

And after reading the comments of the raving masses you might ask yourself what are they going on about.. so here is the full Hawaii County Council Act 66.. The General Plan 2045

https://records.hawaiicounty.gov/Weblink...ly2024.pdf

I have had a problem accessing the above link so am adding another..

https://cohplanning.konveio.com/final-re.../Row1.aspx

Which, as the original Trib article points out even Chris Yuen gave his full support to..

[Obie]

Mostly the same group that is opposed to geothermal and about anything else.

I'm thinking long term marijuana use not only leads to paranoia but causes a loss of comprehension.

[Punatang]

having a raving moron in the WH - Myman!

I'm thinking long term marijuana use - Obie

Appears to be more like the result of crack smoking normalized by members of the non compos mentis led former WH.

ETA: Alternative fuels?  

https://records.hawaiicounty.gov/Weblink...ly2024.pdf   (page 107)

"Mass Transit • Partner with alternative fuel providers to determine fleet vehicles to be purchased to replenish the bus fleet and to optimize purchase and operation costs."



Howdy, Partner.  Did anyone in the meetings mention which alternative fuel and/or which alternative fuel providers would make for optimal fuel and/or partners?

[ironyak]

Right... Believing "climate change is a stupid lie", some might say "a con job", is caused by long-term marijuana use... Talk about comprehension issues.

If anyone has actual insight into these concerns about zoning for "for natural use" vs agricultural or conservation, please do share. Previous testimony from D'Alerta points to a website with "2045 UN Agenda", COVID spike protein detox routines, and so forth.

Be nice if those who were so vocal were not also the most misinformed...

[Durian Fiend]

If you read through the entire article you'll find just how rabid, how uneducated, and emotionally manipulated.. driven.. those opposing masses are...

It's behind a paywall.   

What are the specific concerns about the plan?      As it says in the intro, the general plan is NOT:

"A specific plan for growth or development • A master plan or regional plan • A fixed or inflexible document"

Despite Hawaii's actual birth rate dropping 20% in the past decade it seems the birth rate of conspiracy theories has increased.

[ironyak]

Durian Fiend - What are the specific concerns about the plan?
It seems these days if you want to follow the white rabbit, facebook is the place to go through the looking glass.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/16478954...037899103/
County Plan is apparently phasing out cars and trucks, the billionaires plan for the island, a UN agenda (now with Ed Case!), the uniparty bringing us closer to enslavement, moving everyone into a 15 minute city, etc... Once you see everything as a plot against you, it all makes sense? Sounds more like a bad trip Alice.

More details of the plot given in a linked Youtube video. Lots of people doing their own research (weather modification tech, geoengineering, COVID lockdowns, great reset, etc).

More from the HTH on the complaints:
"Criticism of the plan from opposition testifiers ran the gamut from accusations that it lacked public input and was the result of corruption and nefarious outside influence, to claims which one council member characterized in the past as “conspiracy theories.”

Hamakua resident Kevin Hill praised the three council members who voted against the bill during its first reading on May 20.

“But there are six of you who haven’t, and I wonder who you work for,” Hill said.

The standing-room-only crowd in the Hilo chamber, he said, was clear evidence that the 2045 Plan went against the public’s will.

“We should be approving a document that has had the people’s input, (that’s) of the people, by the people, for the people,” he said. “If it would, you wouldn’t have a room full of people.”

Mountain View resident Seraph D’Alerta testified via Zoom, pointing at a large TV screen displaying one of the document’s zoning maps as alleged proof that the plan sought to remove private property rights.

“This area is being rezoned for natural use, which means where I live I will not be able to live,” D’Alerta said. “This means everything I have ever worked for to have a place to live, for my family to have a place to live, for me to grow food — I will not be able to do that here anymore if this plan is selected.”

He then reminded council members who they “work” for.

“This is not for people, this is an act of war,” he said. “You council members — you work for us. You were selected by us. You work for us. Do what we ask and tell you to do.”

South Kona resident Juhl Rayne also testified via Zoom and called climate change a “stupid lie,” claiming that council members voting in favor of the bill could be held legally accountable.

“I just want to know that each of you — just as human beings, women and men — will be held personally liable for anything that takes away our rights as human beings,” Rayne said. “So, I just wanted to put you on notice that you’ll be held personally liable — you won’t be able to hide behind the county.”

South Kona farmer Julie Schaus said the plan would be a “complete overhaul of life as we know it,” and that the testifiers milling around the chambers “may not be doctors, lawyers or journalists” but could still “recognize injustices when (they) see it.”

“This agenda sets all of these alarms off,” Schaus said. “It’s unethical, immoral. It’s a violation (and) infraction against the people of Hawaii and our present land rights, and we have a right to know who or what organization is spearheading this agenda.”

She claimed that 99% of written and oral testimonies were against the plan, and mused about what type of self-interest was driving council members to support it.

“What could compel you to vote against the people’s will? Money, job security, blackmail?” she asked.

“This sounds like an agenda for a prison encampment, a dystopian reality by government, NGOs, and foreign interests to rule over the people like Mao once did in China,” she added.

Sara Steiner described the plan as “junk,” warning the council that if they approved it, she would “join the lawsuits,” which elicited scattered applause from the audience and forced the council into a five-minute recess." (more at link)

[Obie]

I can only see punatang's post .

Alternate fuels might mean hydrogen.

PGV can run all night and produce hydrogen gas and it can fuel our vehicles.

[HiloJulie]

----- I'm thinking long term marijuana use not only leads to paranoia but causes a loss of comprehension.
----- Appears to be more like the result of crack smoking normalized by members of the non compos mentis led former WH.

----- I can only see punatang's post .

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----- Be nice if those who were so vocal were not also the most misinformed...

Correlations? Causations?

[randomq]

If I recall, this was the General Plan whose draft was posted online a couple years back, with the ability for the general public to read it, mark it up with criticism and suggestions, and contact their council person with feedback. I wonder how many of the angry mob, er, testifiers bothered?

[Rob Tucker]

The last plan for the Puna District consisted of three words: Drive to Hilo.

Not much expecting that to change any.