Your carbon footprint in Hawaii

[Wao nahele kane]

Yeah, Wahine! You should stay home here with me and convince all your coworkers to do the same. That way, nuclear plant leaks would become a certainty at every facility, triggering a mass extinction event. I love that idea, because I’m a special-needs knucklehead, and you should be ashamed of yourself for helping ensure the safety of the world’s safest and least deadly power source per megawatt.

[ironyak]

"I've got a good job undermining the ability for all life to exist on the planet."
"Oh yeah?"
"Yeah, it pays well, but's there's not much future in it."

(Maybe can get that put in the Trib for the Sunday Comics ;)

If only there was a chain of islands that supported like a million people who lived a hyper-local existence without the use of any fossil fuels... Visualize it man! (you can keep your eyes open if that helps)

Kane - least deadly power source per megawatt...
...that can trigger "a mass extinction event." (Coughs in Cherynobyl) Seems like even less deaths by solar and a lot fewer meltdowns! Probably safe enough for home use.

[randomq]

Your work, and where you live, is a choice.

Are you saying that coming from a place of privilege though?  Maybe you had parents that opened your mind to living outside the box, maybe you grew up in a generation with better opportunities, maybe land in Puna was a lot cheaper when you moved here, etc?

Take the average high school or college grad in Hawaii today.  Do they really have the luxury to turn down a good first job offer that requires a commute?  How can they choose where they live without savings to buy a property, or even income to rent a house, never mind some kind of carbon neutral situation?

I had to be a wage slave for many years to afford to move and build here, and was lucky to have started before tuition and land and building materials got out of control.  I know lifelong locals that lost jobs and had to commute Hilo to Kona to continue paying their bills.  What was their alternative?

I think the blame falls on those that pull the levers of power.  The top 1% that own a third of the country's wealth.  They have extraordinary resources and influence to make change, and yet they don't because it would reduce profits.  Think of even half of that wealth turned into renewable energy for everyone, more local jobs everywhere, more land for housing, adopting more modern housing methods, revitalizing towns and water treatment plants and everything else.  Instead, billionaires complain about taxes and always want more, and drain not just our financial future but the future of our environment.

[HiloJulie]

If only there was a chain of islands that supported like a million people who lived a hyper-local existence without the use of any fossil fuels... Visualize it man! (you can keep your eyes open if that helps)

Have you considered being a visionary? Visualized leading by example? 

If your visionary skills are 1/100th of your sitting back and typing out correcting lecture skills, we would be there already! 

And with BOTH eyes wide open!

[MyManao]

For me, to this day, in Waipio the energy source of choice is candles. And although the machete and sickle are always the first tools of choice, the chainsaw and weedwhacker sure do come in handy.

My place is Hawi side, though I most often park Hiilawe and walk.

Interesting thing to note about our lifestyles and the way it could be, was...

Back in 1912 they build the Hamakua Ditch. A channeled waterway that brought water all the way from the back of Waipio to ‘Ō‘Ōkala and created a stable source of water for the cane fields.

The coolest thing, to me, about the Hamakua ditch, is it's source waters, and the 9 mile long tunnel they go through to initially start their journey from Kukuihaele down the coast.

The ditch starts just mauka of the Waipio road.. the water literally comes out of the ground there.. but in reality its the end of a tunnel that starts in the valley.. remembering that Kukuihaele is outside/above the valley.

As it is, physically.. the point that the water issues from the ground outside and above the valley is 50 feet lower than the point the water is collected deep inside and at the very back of the valley. But if you were in the valley and hiked to its back you'd be hard put to realize you actually hiked uphill by about 700 feet. But engineers back in the day realized this and they designed a tunnel to collect the water there and then distribute it along the Hamakua coast.

And back then, with no motors, no Elon Musk's Boring company, no more than the love of women and the work of man (as Bob Weir would sing) they built a 9 mile long tunnel inside the pali of Waipio in 13 months. To do so they brought an entire ship filled with Chinese labor, and through shear will burrowed that tunnel in short order. Pick axes and dynamite. And then returned those Chinese folks back home.

And the most, to me, impressive thing about the entire endeavor is the largest expense of the entire operation was the costs of candle wax. Not the ship, not the labor, not housing and feeding, but the cost of keeping a flame.

We make choices..

[Wao nahele kane]

Ironyak and Mymanao embody the classic trust-fund kid mindset: they cloak themselves in performative sensitivity to mask their guilt over unearned privilege. The cast of The View offers a perfect illustration of this same dynamic.

Welcome to Puna’s very own trust-fund brigade. Care to sign up for their pretentious little club? It’s reminiscent of the Freemasons’ Royal Order of Jesters — funny enough, since that group was actually founded right here in Hawaii. I wouldn’t be surprised if you two clowns are already card-carrying members. It finally clicks: after tarnishing the Masonic temple’s good name, you’ve decided to invade and disrupt Punaweb too.

[MyManao]

least deadly power source per megawatt.

Thousand of years of extremely deadly toxic waste not withstanding 

Nuclear power is crime against humanity. There is no discussion. If you can't dispose of the waste it is a crime to make it. Period.

[Wao nahele wahine]

least deadly power source per megawatt.

Thousand of years of extremely deadly toxic waste not withstanding 

Nuclear power is crime against humanity. There is no discussion. If you can't dispose of the waste it is a crime to make it. Period.

You're funny

[MyManao]

Your work, and where you live, is a choice.

Are you saying that coming from a place of privilege though?

If being an American counts, sure. We all come from a place of privilege. If you're asking about me personally, I was on my own, without two nickels to rub together, and homeless at 13.

[Wao nahele kane]

least deadly power source per megawatt.

Thousand of years of extremely deadly toxic waste not withstanding 

Nuclear power is crime against humanity. There is no discussion. If you can't dispose of the waste it is a crime to make it. Period.

You’re clearly a card-carrying member of the ROJ, or at the very least, another trust-fund baby stamped from the same shallow mold as the View harpies. Go ahead, treat us to another round of your pathetic virtue signaling. You’re about as entertaining as a pack of trained seals clapping and barking for applause.