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RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - leilanidude - 03-01-2019
quote:
Originally posted by kalakoa
average flow thickness of around 33 to 50 feet could take up to 18 months
So ... the PGV and Pohoiki access roads both have molten lava somewhere underneath?
That doesn't seem quite right to me either? With the cooler temps we have been experiencing along with some major amounts of cold rain sifting down through that rather porous a'a' flow, I bet the stuff is hardened, although it could still be quite hot. Climbed F8 recently - ground IS QUITE WARM.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - ironyak - 03-01-2019
kalakoa - So ... the PGV and Pohoiki access roads both have molten lava somewhere underneath?
Rhetorical reply to rhetorical question:
- Of course, just as 130 has unsolidified magma under it near Ala'ili and the steam area. Yet somehow thousands of people still traverse these roads everyday. It's almost like a road still works on the surface regardless of the instablity hundreds or thousands of feet below... But of course the county knows this, just as everyone else should.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - kalakoa - 03-01-2019
a road still works on the surface regardless of the instablity hundreds or thousands of feet below
So ... Mayor Kim's prohibition on road work "before 6 months has passed" is some kind of smokescreen stall tactic? I wonder what he will come up with next.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - Obie - 03-01-2019
Study it to death.
http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/kilauea-recovery-process#COH-Recovery-Timeline
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - kalakoa - 03-01-2019
Disgusting.
How did Kalapana Gardens manage to flourish without County mismanagement? Can't we do the same thing for Leilani?
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - kalakoa - 03-02-2019
https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2019/03/01/hawaii-news/pgv-back-online-in-2019/
Ormat Technologies, the owner of Puna Geothermal Venture, plans to bring the 38-megawatt power plant online by the end of the year.
...
Kaleikini said there as many as 20 people working at the site each day.
It's like rebuilding can totally happen. Just not for residents or farmers.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - Obie - 03-03-2019
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2019/03/03/video-blocked-puna-residents-gather-in-front-of-lava-wall/?fbclid=IwAR3PXWken6EGmLUv1Un2v8K00T4xHugp3-8oCDJna6PSXhXyQuqPzhp50lU
The latest news.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - glinda - 03-03-2019
quote:What a blight on our community that people would have to make a point like that. It aint a Sunday walk in the park. Those are people that have been kept from their homes, from their livelihood, for what? And to think there are people, people who claim to be educated, that do not understand the simple point. Give them a frickin' road already.
Originally posted by TomK
I think you've already made it clear you claim to know how others feel and what process they support, even if it's completely wrong.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - TomK - 03-03-2019
"What a blight on our community that people would have to make a point like that. It aint a Sunday walk in the park. Those are people that have been kept from their homes, from their livelihood, for what? And to think there are people, people who claim to be educated, that do not understand the simple point. Give them a frickin' road already."
Er, I'm all for a road being built for those people. I have no idea why you think I'm not for that. What I am against is people who claim to know that others who have lost their homes are now over their emotional loss and shock. How on earth would could you know this? Please re-read what I wrote instead of weaseling out of what you posted.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - Obie - 03-21-2019
Just when you think the county can't get any more ridiculous :
"Right of entry letters have been sent to landowners abutting Highway 132 and Pohoiki Road “to inform them of road construction that may require limited entry on their property,” the county says.
They don't have any access so how can construction limit their access any more that that ???
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2019/03/21/highway-132-restoration-funding-bill-to-go-before-council/